Posted on Aug 24, 2022
If a NG officer and enlisted are dating, and the enlisted SM goes on AD orders, would that be in violation of Army policy under AR 600-35?
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I have a specific question. I know of two National Guard Soldiers, and they are currently dating. One is a 1LT and the other is a Specialist. They have been dating for about a month now. The specialist is thinking of going on Active-Duty orders for the National Guard. If she does this, would that be in violation of the Army policy under 600-35? I am not the 1LT in question, but he is a friend of mine.
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Posted 2 y ago
Along with rank, the other issue is chain of command...
Are they in same unit? Was the 1LT in a supervisory position above the SPC? Will the SPC be assigned to same or different unit while mobilized?
Are they in same unit? Was the 1LT in a supervisory position above the SPC? Will the SPC be assigned to same or different unit while mobilized?
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No they are not in the same unit. The 1LT is not in a supervisory position of the SPC and they will not be assigned to the same unit while mobilized
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As I understand, the Guard has an "exception" to the policy to cover Guard Members who have a relationship outside of their Guard duty time, especially if the relationship pre-existed their joining the Guard. When the couple is under the UCMJ, that is when at drill or called to duty, the Army policy prohibiting fraternization applies. When off duty, the policy does not apply. Your friend needs to read the Guard exception and any state or unit directives to make sure they know the rules.
LTC Eugene Chu has a good point about Chain of Command.
Overall, the relationship is a bad idea. Even if the couple strictly follows the Gurad rules and there's no chain of command issues, the appearance of fraternization will still exist. Additionally, it will stress the relationship. IMO, both should consider moving on.
LTC Eugene Chu has a good point about Chain of Command.
Overall, the relationship is a bad idea. Even if the couple strictly follows the Gurad rules and there's no chain of command issues, the appearance of fraternization will still exist. Additionally, it will stress the relationship. IMO, both should consider moving on.
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But if one is full-time on orders, and the other one is not, would that not be a violation as soon as the SPC started orders unless they got married within that 1 calendar year?\
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Posted 2 y ago
I believe Reserve component members, such as AGR or military technicians, who are on active duty (other than annual training) are subject to the policy.
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MAJ Ronnie Reams - That’s correct, except when they are on title 10 orders. I may not have expressed that correctly.
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