Have the women with combat jobs in the Rangers and Special Forces actually been fighting along side men?

CW3 Debra Irby - The Comanches and other plains warrior tribes belioeved women were there to support the warrior male.

We’re talking about rt now! No life lost for doing the duty of protecting women for a social experiment.

It's not that women don't belong in combat, it's their need to break the barriers that exist like SF training. Men have different muscular and physiological differences

They reap what they sow. Men no longer want to join a politically correct military The experiment and results are succeeding their goals. It took 50 yrs.

I am sure those serving in these types of units aren't actively trying to broadcast their service. I had a opportunity to speak to one of the first female graduates of Ranger school. She did not like the attention, and would have much rather been the quiet professional that attracted her to the profession in the first place. Same with the female Sapper graduates. They want to do their jobs and don't need articles published showing they are successful. They want their OER/NCOER to speak for itself and move along with their career.

We all run into professionals every day, and never once question their ability, until they show they cannot. Then it is up to us, as senior leaders, to put the right people in the right place at the right point in their career.

I would presume that the negative reaction seen in this thread is because the question continually comes up in the context that females have to demonstrate their value to this organization in order to be treated as a Soldier.

glad you served alongside women in your units....but as the question was asked...was that a Ranger or Special Forces unit they were serving in along with you or are you comparing apples and oranges here?

TSgt James Sutton -
No, not SF of Ranger Bats.
3 in support roles in two different infantry companies. One supply, 2 admins. Where I might not have cared for one of them, I felt very comfortable with them having to cover their side jobs: security, convoys, training, etc. One was also the police liaison for counter-drug enforcement activities. One deployed with our infantry company for peace keeping operations. One of the first females to do so. Professional, capable and competent.
I also worked with multiple females it a training support batallion and in the medical field. Many medics, MP's, among other MOS's.
As an instructor I was able to observe many female soldiers in training environments and felt comfortable with most of them and their abilities.
The ones I had issues with, were the same types of issues I saw with male soldiers. Not willing to listen, egos, physical and mental capabilities.
The only real issues I had were the guys playing hero, trying to get "favors"/attention from the females, and of course the females who prey on them. There have been many times (not as rare as you would think) males and females who couldn't keep their hands off of each other, instead of paying attention to their tasks and sectors.
In fact, nothing new for the military environment.

Overall, I feel comfortable with women in these roles. If they can complete their training, pull their weight, competently fill a role, be willing to take the risk and stay out of trouble, I see no reason for them to not be there. Operations in the middle east, and other parts of the world, have proven that there is a need.

SSgt Christophe Murphy - exactly, adn well put Sarge.

I personally know a number of women in tank crews. In every position from loader to TC, enlisted, non com and Officer. They love what they do and don't ask for any help outside of training needs. I've been very impressed with them, their drive and determination to succeed and prove themselves as tankers, not women tankers, TANKERS. I don't give a flying fuck about sex, if you can do the job w/o killing your team/crew mate you should be given the chance. If not, you should be given another MOS, PERIOD !

you are attempting to minimize what was asked.....yes women have served in combat "units" and gone thru some extreme training, but none, as others have stated really have served in frontline Ranger and Special Forces units....they may have gotten thru "amended" training protocols with extra tries and increased nutrition compared to men but they really haven't done the same standards as men.

TSgt James Sutton I wasn’t minimizing anything. I was just providing some information and context in regards to women in combat.I also accompanied my post with questions to better understand the original question in case what I provided missed the mark