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An interesting article on the firearms discussion and mass shootings.
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From article: “Owning a gun for the purposes of hunting is a fundamentally different thing than owning one for the purpose of killing another person,”
Off top of head, mass shootings are usually done with AR style rifle or handgun. Shotgun and hunting rifles are not the applicable type.
Off top of head, mass shootings are usually done with AR style rifle or handgun. Shotgun and hunting rifles are not the applicable type.
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MAJ Byron Oyler
The very first mass shooting was done with a hunting rifle, a Remington 700. These monsters chose the weapon glamorized and previously used and right now that is the AR.
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MSG Thomas Currie
Clearly the top of your head isn't a valid source of reliable data. The overwhelming majority of mass shootings are done with pistols, not any kind of rifle.
Yes, among rifles, AR's would be the most common -- which should be no surprise because AR is just a generic term for a general sort of rifle. AR's are quite simply the most common type of rifle in the country, so we should expect that they would be the most commonly used for any kind of use that doesn't specifically require something else. Add in the fact that much of the "data" about so-called "mass shootings" comes from newspaper articles which often misidentify firearms and any sort of statistics become meaningless.
Yes, among rifles, AR's would be the most common -- which should be no surprise because AR is just a generic term for a general sort of rifle. AR's are quite simply the most common type of rifle in the country, so we should expect that they would be the most commonly used for any kind of use that doesn't specifically require something else. Add in the fact that much of the "data" about so-called "mass shootings" comes from newspaper articles which often misidentify firearms and any sort of statistics become meaningless.
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MSG Stan Hutchison
I think those few extremists that blame the gun have no experience with firearms. However, as this article points out, "the gun" being available makes a shooting more possible.
Once again, gun owners have certain responsibilities to secure their weapon. Don't let your firearm become "the gun."
Once again, gun owners have certain responsibilities to secure their weapon. Don't let your firearm become "the gun."
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MAJ Byron Oyler
MSG Stan Hutchison - I blame much of the weapons used today on the media as every time a mass shooting occurs with an AR the media makes sure everyone knows. The first mass shooting was largely done by a Remington 700 and far deadlier rifles are on the market. Imagine if the media advertised the Ruger 10/22 as the preferred weapon? A 22 can still kill but does far less damage than an AR15.
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MSG Thomas Currie
MSG Stan Hutchison - Interestingly enough, if you look at the news from some of those wonderful utopian places that have just about eliminated firearms in civilian hands you will find that yes, they have pretty well eliminated mass shootings -- only to replace them with mass stabbings and mass vehicular attacks.
Of course, one big difference is that none of those mass anything events overseas get significant coverage in the US media -- which contributes to the image that mass killings occur only in the US.
Of course, one big difference is that none of those mass anything events overseas get significant coverage in the US media -- which contributes to the image that mass killings occur only in the US.
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It Seems far too often the lessons We learned as kids about basic firearm safety and security of Your firearms has gone by the a lot more often that it should have There are certainly also people with serious mental health problems that should NEVER have access to firearms including a member of my own family. I've owned and handled firearms most of my life from an early age up to My now pretty advanced age. I've never had an accidental discharge and made sure about what could have been hit and what was in the range of that firearm just in case. The NRA courses and medals I earned were about both accurate shooting and also gun safety. Except for Vietnam I've never shot a firearm at a live person and that included over 40 years of full time Law Enforcement. I have owned firearms but never more that four at a time, most were issue for the Police Department but in ALL Cases kept them locked up in secure containers, places and even with trigger locks on the individual firearms. I'm not nervous about firearms but the last one I bought was in 1974, (which I still have) My priority is elsewhere.
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