'White Lives Matter' protesters really want 'white man's land'

We have safety briefs for a reason, always something going on out there.

MSG Joseph Cristofaro - Many are listed as hate groups and although they are not a part of the traditional right, they want the same things many far-right hate groups want... a state comprised of people who look or believe the same way they do.

MSG Joseph Cristofaro - Most of those on the Left are open to people of all colors, all religions, all sexual orientations, all gender identities, etc... the only thing they are not open to is hate and discrimination against people because they are brown, Muslim, gay or transgender. The idea that intolerance of hate groups is itself intolerance, may be true... however if that is the case, it is a good form of intolerance.

Antifa groups that target Fascists, Neo-Fascists and people (often incorrectly) perceived as being Neo-Fascists are relatively new. I'm not sure how SPLC is going to deal with them. They already list groups like the Black Panthers, however what little Antifa literature I have been able to read (outside of the whole punch a Nazi meme), emphasizes defense against right wing violence instead of actively attacking anyone. I expect, and would hope to see any Antifa groups that advocate more aggressive tactics to wind up on the hate group list for advocating that people initiate violence against people perceived to be fascists.

MSG Joseph Cristofaro - It sounds to me like you have confused your version of "us" and "them" for right and left. For example... you want to classify Muslim terror groups as leftist, even though they are extremely conservative. The left want Muslims in general to enjoy the same freedom of religion as everyone else, and they sometimes align with them when it comes to ensuring their religious liberty, however conservative Muslims, much less Muslim terrorists are no more on the left than extremely conservative Christians.

Antifa is not "the left" anymore than the KKK is "the right." Antifa hates fascists, I guess the SPLC isn't quite ready to list fascists as a protected group. If I walk into a Klan or even a Trump rally wearing a Black Lives Matter t-shirt... there is a good chance I would be attacked. There are hotheads all over the political spectrum.

The left has struggled to ensure equal rights and equal opportunity for all, allowing businesses to discriminate because they don't like someones skin color, religion or sexual orientation isn't right. Comparing Muslims who don't serve pork to Christians who bake cakes for some weddings but not for others is a ridiculous false equivalency. You really think the baker would have been sued if they refused to make any wedding cakes?

I don't agree with the Muslim alcohol case, unless the Muslim truck drivers made it clear when they were being hired that they would not transport alcohol. That said, it is still a completely different situation. The cake case has more in common with businesses refusing to serve black during segregation than with an employee who decides that part of their job violates their religious principles.

"The Left" is at least as diverse a group of opinions as there is on the right, it isn't a matter of picking and choosing... it's a matter of honest disagreement when one individuals civil liberties appear to violate the rights of another. Both Antifa and the ACLU are on the left, while on the one hand the ACLU defends the rights of the KKK to march and speak, Antifa believes that whenever possible fascists should be denied that right. I happen to agree with the ACLU on that issue, however I know of some who do not.

Antifa is not a group. It is a movement with many groups, their goals, their beliefs and their activities vary depending on the individuals who happen to be in leadership roles within those groups. Its very easy to cherry pick one group who calls itself Antifa and smear the rest, sort of like some might try to use Westboro Baptist to smear all Baptists.

You don't need to be a right wing speaker to have your speech protested. Although as a general rule right wing protesters will protest left wing speakers and vice versa which means Antifa isn't likely to protest this lady, anymore than the alt-right is likely to protest Steve Bannon.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/26/nyregion/linda-sarsour-cuny-speech-protests.html