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Vets poll: 91 percent back gun checks. Thoughts?
When it comes to gun-related tragedies like the recent shootings in Colorado, Oregon, Newtown etc, Americans have a well-rehearsed reaction. We are at first indignant at the crime. Then the two camps set up. Gun control advocates use the tragedy to buttress their argument that a better policy that factored in mental illness, past history of violence etc would have prevented it. The other camp then insists that making gun purchases stricter only serve to punish the innocent and law-abiding citizens. Both sides attack each other, soon enough the tragedy fades from the public conscious and the camps retreat to their respective corners....until yet another tragedy occurs, then rinse and repeat. I came across this article I'd like to share. full disclosure I am in complete support of the points raised within.
When it comes to gun-related tragedies like the recent shootings in Colorado, Oregon, Newtown etc, Americans have a well-rehearsed reaction. We are at first indignant at the crime. Then the two camps set up. Gun control advocates use the tragedy to buttress their argument that a better policy that factored in mental illness, past history of violence etc would have prevented it. The other camp then insists that making gun purchases stricter only serve to punish the innocent and law-abiding citizens. Both sides attack each other, soon enough the tragedy fades from the public conscious and the camps retreat to their respective corners....until yet another tragedy occurs, then rinse and repeat. I came across this article I'd like to share. full disclosure I am in complete support of the points raised within.
Vets poll: 91 percent back gun checks
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Edited 9 y ago
Posted 9 y ago
Responses: 36
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Former Gun Dealer here.
When purchasing a Gun from an FFL dealer you MUST complete a Background Check. Period.
Repeat. When purchasing a Gun from an FFL dealer, you MUST complete a Background Check. That is NOT optional. This is a matter of Federal Law.
Background checks already exist.
Federal Law allows "Person to Person" Transfers (aka sales) providing that they meet all the requirements of an FFL transaction. Now what that means is, if you are prohibited from buying it from an FFL Dealer, you are prohibited from doing a "Person to Person" Transfer. In other words, you're already a criminal.
Person to Person transfers are for "friends & family" but also apply to the secondary market, or collectors. If I wanted to sell a weapon out of my personal collection, to another law abiding citizen, this is one method of doing so, without having to get neither the government nor a business involved. That's all. It's already regulated (see above).
The problem is that many people, and organizations demonize this calling it the "gun show loophole" which is not only inaccurate, it's disingenuous, because of course we support background checks because they already exist.
However... And I pause for effect... If you asked the follow on questions. What would the answers be?
1) Should a husband be allowed to buy a guy for his wife, as a gift?
2) Should a parent be allowed to buy a gun for an adult child, as a gift?
3) Should you be able to inherit weapons owned by family members?
When purchasing a Gun from an FFL dealer you MUST complete a Background Check. Period.
Repeat. When purchasing a Gun from an FFL dealer, you MUST complete a Background Check. That is NOT optional. This is a matter of Federal Law.
Background checks already exist.
Federal Law allows "Person to Person" Transfers (aka sales) providing that they meet all the requirements of an FFL transaction. Now what that means is, if you are prohibited from buying it from an FFL Dealer, you are prohibited from doing a "Person to Person" Transfer. In other words, you're already a criminal.
Person to Person transfers are for "friends & family" but also apply to the secondary market, or collectors. If I wanted to sell a weapon out of my personal collection, to another law abiding citizen, this is one method of doing so, without having to get neither the government nor a business involved. That's all. It's already regulated (see above).
The problem is that many people, and organizations demonize this calling it the "gun show loophole" which is not only inaccurate, it's disingenuous, because of course we support background checks because they already exist.
However... And I pause for effect... If you asked the follow on questions. What would the answers be?
1) Should a husband be allowed to buy a guy for his wife, as a gift?
2) Should a parent be allowed to buy a gun for an adult child, as a gift?
3) Should you be able to inherit weapons owned by family members?
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
CPT Ahmed Faried - Wanted to add this for additional research material now that I'm back at my home comp. You may also want to check the Lott papers, and the research on "Defensive Gun Usage" numbers within the US. The data is "enlightening" to say the least, especially when weighed against ANY call for additional regulation.
http://www.theacru.org/harvard_study_gun_control_is_counterproductive/
http://www.theacru.org/harvard_study_gun_control_is_counterproductive/
Harvard Study: Gun Control Is Counterproductive :: The American Civil Rights Union
I’ve just learned that Washington, D.C.’s petition for a rehearing of the Parker case in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit was denied today. This is good news. Readers will recall in this case that the D.C. Circuit overturned the decades-long ban on gun ownership in the nation’s capitol on Second Amendment grounds.
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SGT Bryon Sergent
Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS - Well think of this. If we actually enforced the laws that are in place, Started putting people in jail, and actually executed the ones that have been on death row for 20, 30 years or more and actually had judges and lawyers that didn't get these people off every time they went to court, I think if we actually put more in the ground and enforced the law and the punishment it would be different. "well I just killed a guy with a gun, and they wont use the death penalty I can spend the rest of my life in prison, three hots and a cot. I'm good" mentality.
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I'm a vet, and I'm a gun owner (have been my entire life), and I support background checks.
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SPC Ken Sawyer
either you are for or against it you can't pick and choose the parts you like. You swore an oath to protect and defend it try reading it sometime
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SPC Ken Sawyer
LTC Kevin B. - The same can be said for your position. Not everyone that wore the uniform really gives a damn about the Constitution.
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I think part of the problem with this issue is that there's a lot of ignorance about background checks. For example, I cannot tell you the number of times I've heard the argument that we need to close the 'gun show' loophole in the honest belief that anybody can walk into a gun show and just buy any gun you want, no questions asked. Moreover, most people don't seem to know the difference between a clip and a magazine, let alone an 'assault weapon' and a fully automatic weapon.
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