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I know this much. Trump sent an army to the border, and California got minimal help.
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Caravan found the population of Tijuana to be just a bit more than a little unfriendly and uncooperative. Maybe even hostile.
Having 5000 guest show up with little or no money and few skills didn't go over very well there either.
Having 5000 guest show up with little or no money and few skills didn't go over very well there either.
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Patricia Overmeyer
CPT Adam P. - Sorry, I bought that property long time ago, unless you are in Yuma. Lol! But we did need to have a lot more razor wire strung on the border and so glad we were able to get it done properly. Can't expect to have that chore doled out to the lowest bidder.
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Actually, like many military mobilizations, this event did provide training opportunities. At the same time, it's not like they showed up, did nothing, and went home. As you know we are required to train for deploying personnel, set up operations and then some. This effort has accomplished this, while also assisting the DHS in erecting more fencing and barriers at the border.
As for the election stunt... Are you saying Trump organized these thousand of people right at this time to thumb their nose at our laws, wave their own flags as they approached us, and demand we grant them asylum even after they were given opportunities in Mexico? Really?
As for the election stunt... Are you saying Trump organized these thousand of people right at this time to thumb their nose at our laws, wave their own flags as they approached us, and demand we grant them asylum even after they were given opportunities in Mexico? Really?
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SFC J Fullerton
I am sure all Combat Engineers could use remedial training in unrolling concertina wire and pounding pickets. It is a perishable skill.
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
The Air Force deploys and has a media operations capability which was used in this deployment. The process of deploying is a trainable skill too. You might think this was a waste and that Trump used it for the election and you might be right. But I also see the merit in providing optics to the voters that want something done and to the masses (including those who are organizing them) that you cannot circumvent our laws. Show of force is also a tool provided by the military.
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CPT Adam P.
Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin - I'm not buying it. As they say, you are putting lipstick on a pig. Do you remember the pentagon stopping the training in Korea by orders from the President because the training cost to much? Training in Korea costs more, but the point is that there are real world missions out there and service members that need that funding for real training and not for what we call in the Army SGT's Time Training. And no the laws say a person seeking asylum does NOT have to enter through a port of entry. This is the LAW! The President should learn to follow the LAW!
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
The President has the absolute duty and obligation to enact political power through the use of the military. The issue with NK is something no President has been able to resolve and one which the last one stated was his biggest international issue. I am all too willing to see President Trump attempt to use a different method in order to find some way to a solution. Canceling one of the many exercises we have with SK is not a big deal if it results in a path to normalized relations with NK. This is not something which will happen overnight as the MSM seemingly expects because they like to feed people like you in your fast food I want it now mentality.
To put things in perspective, this deployment to the border was not as financially significant as you would say. Think of it this way. The military provided fly over missions for sporting events and other ceremonies all the time throughout the year. These can cost upwards around $450K (obviously depending on the number/type of aircraft and where they come from). While a deployment to the border is not a typical exercise, it can still be considered one with regards to ensuring those specific troops have satisfied specific currencies and requirements for annual training.
As for the law in dealing with asylum seekers, the point behind this is to ensure whether the individual has a credible or reasonable fear of returning home for specific reasons. It is based on those who "cannot obtain protection in that country, due to past persecution or a well-founded fear of being persecuted in the future “on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.”" Now, these caravans were processed through Mexico and offered asylum hearings while there. Additionally, these people had the chance to go to the US Embassies or Consulates in their home countries and those which they traveled through to get to the border. Why didn't they? Because they know they will not be granted asylum. The intent is to get to the US and find a way to get lost in our system. That much is obvious.
To put things in perspective, this deployment to the border was not as financially significant as you would say. Think of it this way. The military provided fly over missions for sporting events and other ceremonies all the time throughout the year. These can cost upwards around $450K (obviously depending on the number/type of aircraft and where they come from). While a deployment to the border is not a typical exercise, it can still be considered one with regards to ensuring those specific troops have satisfied specific currencies and requirements for annual training.
As for the law in dealing with asylum seekers, the point behind this is to ensure whether the individual has a credible or reasonable fear of returning home for specific reasons. It is based on those who "cannot obtain protection in that country, due to past persecution or a well-founded fear of being persecuted in the future “on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.”" Now, these caravans were processed through Mexico and offered asylum hearings while there. Additionally, these people had the chance to go to the US Embassies or Consulates in their home countries and those which they traveled through to get to the border. Why didn't they? Because they know they will not be granted asylum. The intent is to get to the US and find a way to get lost in our system. That much is obvious.
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