Posted on Mar 6, 2017
Rep. Hudson Introduces National Concealed Carry Reciprocity Bill
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Concealed carry permits only allow for law abiding citizens to carry so I see no reason why this shouldn't be allowed. The fact gun control groups are calling this "a dangerous policy that would force all 50 states to let dangerous people carry hidden, loaded guns in public–even people with violent criminal records, stalkers, and domestic abusers." just shows that they don't bother to look into these laws any. I can't name a single conceal carry permit that allows for felons (which include people with violent criminal records) to carry. Stalking and abuse are crimes in and of themselves so concealed carry laws don't interfere with them being arrested for breaking the law. Any time violence is threatened or used to get one's way, they have committed a felony and, therefore will no longer be permitted to conceal carry or, for that matter, open carry after they are convicted anyway (and I believe this is a right that is restricted while they are being tried for it as well). You really don't have to take law-abiding citizens' rights away to create a safe society.
"Those who trade liberty for security deserve neither." -Benjamin Franklin
"Those who trade liberty for security deserve neither." -Benjamin Franklin
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PFC Jonathan Albano I couldn't agree more. And the quote is a particular favorite of mine. I'll vote up tomorrow!
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I would like this law but I highly doubt it will pass. States such as NY, NJ, and CA will throw an absolute fit if they were told they had to basically throw out their monopoly on disarming citizens.
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SFC (Anonymous) - CW3 Harvey K.
this is the law for LEOSA
(a)Notwithstanding any other provision of the law of any State or any political subdivision thereof, an individual who is a qualified law enforcement officer and who is carrying the identification required by subsection (d) may carry a concealed firearm that has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce, subject to subsection (b).
(b)This section shall not be construed to supersede or limit the laws of any State that—
(1)permit private persons or entities to prohibit or restrict the possession of concealed firearms on their property; or
(2)prohibit or restrict the possession of firearms on any State or local government property, installation, building, base, or park.
(c)As used in this section, the term “qualified law enforcement officer” means an employee of a governmental agency who—
(1)is authorized by law to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of, or the incarceration of any person for, any violation of law, and has statutory powers of arrest or apprehension under section 807(b) of title 10, United States Code (article 7(b) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice);
(2)is authorized by the agency to carry a firearm;
(3)is not the subject of any disciplinary action by the agency which could result in suspension or loss of police powers;
(4)meets standards, if any, established by the agency which require the employee to regularly qualify in the use of a firearm;
(5)is not under the influence of alcohol or another intoxicating or hallucinatory drug or substance; and
(6)is not prohibited by Federal law from receiving a firearm.
(d)The identification required by this subsection is the photographic identification issued by the governmental agency for which the individual is employed that identifies the employee as a police officer or law enforcement officer of the agency.
(e)As used in this section, the term “firearm”—
(1)except as provided in this subsection, has the same meaning as in section 921 of this title;
(2)includes ammunition not expressly prohibited by Federal law or subject to the provisions of the National Firearms Act; and
(3)does not include—
(A)any machinegun (as defined in section 5845 of the National Firearms Act);
(B)any firearm silencer (as defined in section 921 of this title); and
(C)any destructive device (as defined in section 921 of this title).
(f)For the purposes of this section, a law enforcement officer of the Amtrak Police Department, a law enforcement officer of the Federal Reserve, or a law enforcement or police officer of the executive branch of the Federal Government qualifies as an employee of a governmental agency who is authorized by law to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of, or the incarceration of any person for, any violation of law, and has statutory powers of arrest or apprehension under section 807(b) of title 10, United States Code (article 7(b) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice).
this is the law for LEOSA
(a)Notwithstanding any other provision of the law of any State or any political subdivision thereof, an individual who is a qualified law enforcement officer and who is carrying the identification required by subsection (d) may carry a concealed firearm that has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce, subject to subsection (b).
(b)This section shall not be construed to supersede or limit the laws of any State that—
(1)permit private persons or entities to prohibit or restrict the possession of concealed firearms on their property; or
(2)prohibit or restrict the possession of firearms on any State or local government property, installation, building, base, or park.
(c)As used in this section, the term “qualified law enforcement officer” means an employee of a governmental agency who—
(1)is authorized by law to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of, or the incarceration of any person for, any violation of law, and has statutory powers of arrest or apprehension under section 807(b) of title 10, United States Code (article 7(b) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice);
(2)is authorized by the agency to carry a firearm;
(3)is not the subject of any disciplinary action by the agency which could result in suspension or loss of police powers;
(4)meets standards, if any, established by the agency which require the employee to regularly qualify in the use of a firearm;
(5)is not under the influence of alcohol or another intoxicating or hallucinatory drug or substance; and
(6)is not prohibited by Federal law from receiving a firearm.
(d)The identification required by this subsection is the photographic identification issued by the governmental agency for which the individual is employed that identifies the employee as a police officer or law enforcement officer of the agency.
(e)As used in this section, the term “firearm”—
(1)except as provided in this subsection, has the same meaning as in section 921 of this title;
(2)includes ammunition not expressly prohibited by Federal law or subject to the provisions of the National Firearms Act; and
(3)does not include—
(A)any machinegun (as defined in section 5845 of the National Firearms Act);
(B)any firearm silencer (as defined in section 921 of this title); and
(C)any destructive device (as defined in section 921 of this title).
(f)For the purposes of this section, a law enforcement officer of the Amtrak Police Department, a law enforcement officer of the Federal Reserve, or a law enforcement or police officer of the executive branch of the Federal Government qualifies as an employee of a governmental agency who is authorized by law to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of, or the incarceration of any person for, any violation of law, and has statutory powers of arrest or apprehension under section 807(b) of title 10, United States Code (article 7(b) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice).
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SFC (Anonymous) - You see the problem with your argument is that is written into the law its self. The LEOSA law says that states can do that.
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CW3 Harvey K.
SFC (Verify To See) - They can't have one set of laws for LEOSA carriers, and a different set of laws for their "native" off-duty LEO carriers, can they? There's something about "the equal protection of the law" that's involved here.
Maybe even something on the order of the "Black Codes" that kept Blacks disarmed (no canes or dogs even) until they were replaced with "gun control" laws that were written as if they applied to all, but were only enforced on Blacks.
Maybe even something on the order of the "Black Codes" that kept Blacks disarmed (no canes or dogs even) until they were replaced with "gun control" laws that were written as if they applied to all, but were only enforced on Blacks.
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A little of both. Ultimately this never should've been an issue in the first place, but anti-gun individuals with the wrong political abilities made it so.
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