Nuclear War with Russia Winnable Said Trump's Incoming National Security Advisor - Mish Talk

1.We all lose. Subs can continue to fire back and make it a total loss for both sides.
2. Famine and world economic collapse.
3. Some survivors, the survivors of the new left class of 2016(along with Bernie Sanders, AOC, Beto and Governor Inslee) would be upset with the nuclear aftermath ruining permanently the Green New Deal as the earth would need at least 20 years to get to today's temperatures and the ozone layer is damaged. To them, Climate Emergency was the biggest threat. Climate Scientists would have no more arguments with smarter politicians saying to them all along..No, a nuclear war can cause a Climate Emergency. AOC and Sanders would be at a suicide watch at Walter Reed Hospital.
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In 1964 Stanley Kubrick made a Movie. On the Beach was about an Atomic War wiping out the Western Hemisphere. An American Submarine finds temporary safety in Australia, which all will perish from the Radiation that the wind is blowing to Australia. No one on earth will be alive. The Submarine crew decides to sail to San Francisco to at least die in the USA. When they get to San Francisco no humans are present The city is a Ghost Town. They all go to the beach where they await the end. Movie Over. Nobody will win a nuclear war. Maybe we will having humans living in outer space by then. That's our only chance. Good Luck. Semper Fi.

Context is so important. Back in the 1980s, when Kupperman made those assessments, nuclear war was a very real possibility...some might have even said it was an eventuality. The Soviets could've just as easily hit the button as we could have, an in the intervening minutes between peace and war...the difference between survival (however marginal) and annihilation could've been measured on the head of a needle (you may know that far better than I).

It's not 1982...the USSR is no more, and the Russian Federation; arguably our single greatest threat of all out nuclear strike, probably wants it no more than we do. Frankly, I wish we, the Russians, the Indians, the Israelis, the Brits...everyone with 'em, would agree to bury 'em all under a mountain of lead and concrete for all time. If I could go back in time and convince Oppenheimer and crew to abandon it...I would. The atomic genie is out of the bottle, and no one is safe.

None of which means Kupperman is a "rogue" who's going to council the President to unleash hell on earth merely because it is; all rhetoric aside, a question of mathematics regarding who might "win" such a nightmarish scenario.