Posted on Apr 17, 2018
Navy’s top officer lays out aggressive new cruiser replacement approach
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It sounds almost like reinventing the wheel to a point. I do concur with a need to bring online a newer class of cruiser. Maybe should give some thought into bringing a heavy cruiser into the realm of planning. This would add a little more to a fleet which has been downgraded by Democrats from the Clinton era on. The ideas regarding swapping out failed system's in less time is simple. When we had the USS Cape Cod AD-43 out of San Diego Ca, year's ago. We actually were the first afloat IMA to effectively perform a gas turbine change out while steaming. The need regarding more power generation for radar system's, why haven't we come up with a newer version of detection requireing less power ? I mean if we look back at the Spruance class destroyer, a direct hit into the superstructure rendered it (DIW) . Lets be a bit more innovative with solutions to the problems that we face in our bluejackets experience levels and sea worthiness during all underway conditions. That's my 2 cents per share on the topic!
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LT Brad McInnis
Engine changeout at sea? My CHENG hat off to you, that is impressive! The power issue, as I understand it, is not for radars exactly. It is for weapons systems. It takes a lot of power for the lasers and rail guns that are the future. We had upgraded GTG's years ago as a move towards this, and they were light years ahead of what we had before. That being said, they need a LOOOOOTTTTT of power, which I don't think we can successfully and sustainably produce.
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SCPO Larry Knight Sr.
With all the technology in this era of all encompassing, you'd think that those brain powers could develop a means in preventing a lack of power. I thought that's why they make the big buck's. I see it as more of a technology compromise by the (chinese) etc. I recall back when Moby dick was a minnow, loose lips sink ship's even in the developmental stages of prior construction. My only real concern is with a stable platform for our currently serving bluejackets. Additionally the sea worthiness per design, and ability in all sea states survivability. It was proven with the USS Midway , that adding the sort of pontoons on the port and starboard hull did in fact nothing to add too the stability and bouncy. Their thought ie: ADM and Capt umptiscratch they figured that this would allow the loading of a larger air wing.I guess they didn't complete that phase of their training at Annapolis . So back to the conference room for further details on and deliberations on how to move forward with this dilemma. Especially when we cant wait for a decade to slip by.
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SCPO Larry Knight Sr.
LT Brad Mcinnis
That change out is a direct reflection of sound leadership both on the deck plates, to the wardroom and most impressively the bluejackets experience levels and dedication to their respective rstings.I tip my cover to you as well, and look forward to more interaction on Rally Point..
That change out is a direct reflection of sound leadership both on the deck plates, to the wardroom and most impressively the bluejackets experience levels and dedication to their respective rstings.I tip my cover to you as well, and look forward to more interaction on Rally Point..
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My 2 cents... 1) I like the idea that they are looking at an already proven hull. I think this was the disaster that was LCS. We don't necessarily have to build from scratch. Save the money from hull design and use it to upgrade CS and ENG systems.
2) I am not sure why we are wedded to this idea that things need to be quickly swapped out. I know that yard periods are expensive, but have we really actually "swapped" anything out to real use and need?
3) The CG class is old! I remember my CG being old when I was a young BM3 painting the sides!
2) I am not sure why we are wedded to this idea that things need to be quickly swapped out. I know that yard periods are expensive, but have we really actually "swapped" anything out to real use and need?
3) The CG class is old! I remember my CG being old when I was a young BM3 painting the sides!
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LCDR (Join to see)
LT Brad McInnis - I agree there should be a test bed, use a old Spruance Hull since it is similar to the Tyco. Just the engineering plant, pull the shafts and screws, replace with pods and bow thrusters. The combat systems are already being proven on the Flight III Burke and Zumwalt. This ship needs to be owned by URL who would just contract the shipbuilder to install the new systems. Simple bridge and navigation radar etc... is all that you would need.
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LT Brad McInnis
LCDR (Join to see) - Not to go too out of the box, but does a CG doing staff ops really need all the bells and whistles? How often are they actually operating by themselves without DDG's hanging around. I am not saying they don't need defense and offense weapons, but do they need the high end stuff? Isn't the most important part of a CG's job command and control? I don't know, I have only had 2 cups of coffee this am and am not firing on all cylinders yet!
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LCDR (Join to see)
LT Brad McInnis - But as you get up to speed I will give you some food for thought. I would say yes, the Tyco was the front line most capable ship of its time. I would argue the replacement would need everything. It needs to be a missile barge, the DDG was a compromise and does not have the compliment of the Tyco. I needs to be Flag capable with all the bells and whistles to operate independently, support amphibs, netcentric, rail gun when it comes online, etc.... You do not want to cut any corners the new cruiser would have to be a lot of things to a lot of people.
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LCDR (Join to see) I will defer to my Naval Brethren on this topic. You all seem to stay very closely in touch with the status of the USN and what it has afloat!
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