Posted on Jun 16, 2017
ex-Ranger and fellow veteran call out fake soldier
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There are three simple questions to smoke out a Poser:
#1: Ask about their Military Service: a Veteran will tell to you to Fuck Off but a poser will willfully detail.
#2 Ask them their Date of Enlistment or ETS ; a Vet rememberers Location, Day, Date, hour, minute time if not the second!
#3 Ask then their Drill Sergeant’s Names: My DS said we never forget their names; 40 years later, I guess SFC Ridenour And SSG Conway we’re correct!
#1: Ask about their Military Service: a Veteran will tell to you to Fuck Off but a poser will willfully detail.
#2 Ask them their Date of Enlistment or ETS ; a Vet rememberers Location, Day, Date, hour, minute time if not the second!
#3 Ask then their Drill Sergeant’s Names: My DS said we never forget their names; 40 years later, I guess SFC Ridenour And SSG Conway we’re correct!
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2lt Moran no disrespect sir but what some of us look at is that these posers r out there tring to act like they mean something yet they r not we have earned the right to wear r patches and they have not so that is what pisses us off and to make us lose our cool ty sir
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The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals said that is free speech.....none of us servicemembers/veterans like the fact that any person can just slap a uniform on with adornments not earned, but regardless of our ire, he is free to do so, ergo legal......if you don't like the ruling, lobby to have it changed and don't stop until it is.......my take
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SFC Charles Webb
Correct but the definition of fraud is getting something of value under false pretenses, i.e. false credentials, false personal data, etc....that guy was standing outside a public place dressed in UCP pattern ACU's which again is NOT a crime under stolen valor, now if he were for example hosting a fallen Ranger charity event and using his "faux service" to generate funds then it's fraud.....but simply dressing up as one is called free speech----
The Stolen Valor Act of 2013 (Pub.L. 113–12; H.R. 258) is a United States federal law that was passed by the 113th United States Congress. The law amends the federal criminal code to make it a crime for a person to claim they have served in the military, embellish their rank or fraudulently claim having received a valor award specified in the Act, with the intention of obtaining money, property, or other tangible benefit by convincing another that he or she received the award.
The current federal law is a revised version of a previous statute struck down by the Supreme Court of the United States in United States v. Alvarez. In Alvarez the Supreme Court ruled the arrest and prosecution of a citizen for wearing unearned military awards, who did so without criminal intent, violates their constitutional right to freedom of speech.
these are the decorations that combined with intent to defraud, make this a crime:
Medal of Honor
Distinguished Service Cross,
Navy Cross,
Air Force Cross,
Silver Star,
Bronze Star,
Purple Heart,
Combat Action Ribbon,
Combat Infantryman's Badge,
Combat Action Badge,
Combat Medical Badge,
Combat Action Medal, or
any replacement or duplicate medal for such medal as authorized by law.
The Stolen Valor Act of 2013 (Pub.L. 113–12; H.R. 258) is a United States federal law that was passed by the 113th United States Congress. The law amends the federal criminal code to make it a crime for a person to claim they have served in the military, embellish their rank or fraudulently claim having received a valor award specified in the Act, with the intention of obtaining money, property, or other tangible benefit by convincing another that he or she received the award.
The current federal law is a revised version of a previous statute struck down by the Supreme Court of the United States in United States v. Alvarez. In Alvarez the Supreme Court ruled the arrest and prosecution of a citizen for wearing unearned military awards, who did so without criminal intent, violates their constitutional right to freedom of speech.
these are the decorations that combined with intent to defraud, make this a crime:
Medal of Honor
Distinguished Service Cross,
Navy Cross,
Air Force Cross,
Silver Star,
Bronze Star,
Purple Heart,
Combat Action Ribbon,
Combat Infantryman's Badge,
Combat Action Badge,
Combat Medical Badge,
Combat Action Medal, or
any replacement or duplicate medal for such medal as authorized by law.
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Cpl Edgar Cervantes Cortes
Dang man you did your homework. I’m guessing you are also an attorney. Thanks for the knowledge.
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