Central Park 5 Whacks Trump Over 'Due Process': 'Our Lives Were Destroyed'

MSG Joseph Cristofaro - But we are not talking about lower staff, we are talking about the man who filters all the documents going to of from the presidents desk including compartmentalized information.

The FBI gave their report to the White house in July and yet in February he still had no internment clearance,, That was the responsibility of another jackass that worked directly for Trump, the White house solicitor. All the folks involved worked directly fore the President, try again

MSG Joseph Cristofaro -
1) A statement is only as valid as the credibility of the individual saying it and Trump has zero credibility on the subject. It's like believing Trump means what he says about family values while not living up to those standards himself. Big fish, the one with the money, power, and influence to make allegations go away; little fish, the one who doesn't have any of that and are expendable. Sorry if the analogy went over your head.
2) Yeah you repeat the same BHO and HRC narratives of Fox News, Breitbart, and compromised GOP figures all you want. You might as well throw in there FBI and DOJ because you rather believe a large scale conspiracy instead of the simple facts.
3) Yeah I've been keeping up. Even FBI Director Chris Way just contradicted the WH in regards to status of Porter's investigation. Bottomline, FBI completed their investigation of Porter in July 2017 and handed results to the WH security section that makes the final decision on security clearances. So you can't blame the FBI since they do not grant, deny, or otherwise adjudicate security clearances.

Go ahead. Tell us another one.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-director-christopher-wrays-timeline-on-rob-porter-security-clearance-contradicts-white-house/

Interesting. A N. Texas Daily article about two men quarreling in an online forum resulted in one man accusing the other of harassment and defamation of character. Does this mean Capt Gregory Prickett make the allegation against MSG Joseph Cristofaro? I would say googling names of RP members to dig up negative information on them then post in a social forum can be considered a form of harassment and defamation of character. How about being professional and stick to the topic or find another thread for this type of behavior.

MSG Joseph Cristofaro - I don't need the full context of what's going on between the two of you. Take it elsewhere.
Yes I've seen that latest report. As well as yesterday's disastrous failure by Senate to pass any bipartisan bills that were proposed. It didn't help that Trump was tweeting prior to scheduled voting that all the bipartisan bills were garbage then tweets again afterwards blaming Democrats for doing a disservice to Dreamers. The incompetence by all sides is too much to bear with dysfunctional leaders leading the chaos.

SFC Sczymanski James L. - Someone else called out Clinton specifically...I called them all out.

Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth - I would love to hear how you would do this? How do you get every voter to vote "for" someone and not just "against" someone? How do you get the better of the crop? How do you get a man or woman that actually has integrity and honor, and puts the nation above self? And, why would that person even want to get into that world?

MSG Stan Hutchison - All great questions...let me pontificate (wow ten dollar word used too early). To answer you...it will never be done IMHO. The only Presidents I ever voted for solely were Reagan and Bush II (the first term...not the second). I know that is sad but they were the only options presented for me as being perfect for the job. The rest of the time I didn't vote agaist someone...I still voted for someone because they were the only viable option for me with my convictions and beliefs and the only ones that I thought would do the best job out of the two. I would never vote against someone...I would rather abstain than that...and if I didn't vote, I wouldn't have the rigth to sit here and have this discussion. I don't vote party politics most of the time. I do lean right but the only president I can remember that was totally awful from the get go was Carter. The rest did some good and some bad.

I don't know how to get the better of the crop because it seems that money and donors for the parties get the ones they want nominated for us to pick from. As of now we really don't have a say in the early part of the process. Have no clue how to fix that one.

Integrity and honor...that is a tough one. Integrity is easy either you have it or you don't and it is obvious and most politicians don't anymore. I have told my daughter and my troops over the years that Integrity is the only thing in life that is truly yours that no one can take from you but you and only you can give it away. Honor is defined in the noun as high respect; esteem and in the verb is to fulfill and obligation or keep an agrement. Honor in the realm of politics is subjective. Did you or do you vote for the bet things fo ryour constituients or did you check a box to get the party of your back? Honor in the field of battle...different story. Context unfortunatley defines honor these days. If you didn't fulfill your promises how can I hold you in a high repsect?

I know a few local and state senators and congressmen that have stood up with integrity and honor and stated things were wrong and they didn't vote for a bill and it cost them the next election...but they were ok with that. Unfortuantley for the state they lost a great person and yes they stated they didn't want to be part of that world again. They are out there but in the world of smear politics and closet digging a candidate that really and truly has integrity and honor can get spun to look like Satans spawn before it is over because the shorted a gas station attendant .05 by accident 30 years ago. Headline would read "gas station attendant robbed by Candidate x over a gallon of gas." I agree...who would want that. My wife has told me to go into local politics and I laughed so hard I think I broke my chair. Hope I answered your questions...just my two cents and these days I beleive that is over priced.

Cheers

Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth - Thank you for a well thought out response. Let's see,,, you did not insult me, you did not insult my political beliefs, you did not demonize those that do not agree with you politically,,, Wow! That is rare these days.
I want to take some time to digest what you wrote, so I will respond further tomorrow.

LOL ... not nearly as hypocritical as all the Dems that supported Bill Clinton through his sexual misadventures. Too funny for words!

LTC (Join to see) - Prove it

SSgt Ray Stone - There's nothing I need to prove. He admitted to diddling an intern ... finally ... and admitted to lying (for which he paid a penalty and lost his law license) and Democrats still refused to throw him out of office after he was impeached. And now they want to crap on Trump who hasn't been convicted of or admitted to a damn thing? Yep. Hypocrites.