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SGT Jim Arnold
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he's lucky they didn't hang him for his crimes
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SGT Jim Arnold
SGT Jim Arnold
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Capt Gregory Prickett - ok don't like it but it makes sense
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Capt Gregory Prickett That is what I thought about there not being an official declaration of war. I didn’t want to say it because I wasn’t sure that I was correct about my assumption.
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SSgt Christopher Brose
SSgt Christopher Brose
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Capt Gregory Prickett, PO1 (Join to see), SGT Jim Arnold - Congress hasn't had the guts to use the term "war" since the 40's, but they have authorized the use of military force to engage in hostilities in foreign countries. Since there's no template in the Constitution for actually declaring war on another country, why shouldn't we consider the congressional authorization to use military force against a foreign country to be a (gutless) declaration of war? It's kind of hard to charge someone with Misbehavior Before the Enemy when there's no enemy.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
Capt Gregory Prickett
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SSgt Christopher Brose - that would be the prosecution's argument on appeal. Without doing legal research, I don't know how successful that would be, and I'm not inclined to do a bunch of research that I'm not getting paid for.
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LT Brad McInnis
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MSgt Danny Hope There is something wrong with this younger generation, and I know I sound like on old fogie, but... It really seems like they do not understand that there are consequences to their actions. There was an article the other day about Manning, not understanding why people call her a traitor, too. Now, this jackhole that doesn't understand there are consequences from desertion. Maybe, just maybe, we shouldn't give out participation trophies to everyone, and make these youngsters understand that it pays to be a winner...
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
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He is not representative of all of his age. Trust me there are people older who think they are entitled and don't have to be held accountable too.
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LT Brad McInnis
LT Brad McInnis
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff - That's true, it just seems odd that these 2 high profile cases, same generation, both have the same ideas...
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
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Yes but I have seen and know plenty of younger millennials the complete opposite of this guy. My nieces and nephews some are in their teenage years now - and they are not entitled. They work hard and go to school and don't act like these idiots in the news.

Every generation has their idiots and the generation before them always say "back in my day..."
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Capt Gregory Prickett
Capt Gregory Prickett
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LT Brad McInnis - you said it perfectly. There are consequences to desertion. Those do not include treason or being labeled a traitor.
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PO3 Steven Sherrill
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MSgt Danny Hope So he is fine with deserter, and misbehavior before the enemy, but not traitor?
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PO3 Steven Sherrill
PO3 Steven Sherrill
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Capt Gregory Prickett - Desertion comes with the same penalty as treason during a time of war. "(c) Any person found guilty of desertion or attempt to desert shall be punished, if the offense is committed in time of war, by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct,"

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381
http://www.ucmj.us/sub-chapter-10-punitive-articles/885-article-85-desertion
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Capt Gregory Prickett
Capt Gregory Prickett
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PO3 Steven Sherrill - the last declaration of war was in 1942. Against Bulgaria, Hungary, and Romania.

Second. in Texas, murder comes with the same punishment as aggravated sexual assault of a child, but they are still two separate offenses, and a murderer would have plenty of reason to be offended if he were called a child molester.

Desertion is not treason, and a deserter is not a traitor.
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PO3 Steven Sherrill
PO3 Steven Sherrill
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Capt Gregory Prickett - so in your eyes a piece of paper from congress declaring a military action war is required for U.S. troops engaged with our enemies to be fighting a war. That is a slap in the face to those who served in Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Desert Storm, the Global War on Terror, and countless other small engagements where American Service members were engaged with our enemies.
While on the subject if you look in the UCMJ Treason is not used. Treason is laid out in the US Code. Sedition, Mutiny, Misbehavior before the enemy, Espionage, Aiding the Enemy are terms used when a service member commits an act detrimental to the efforts of the United States Military under the UCMJ. Further a person doesn't have to be charged with treason to be called a traitor. When he walked off his post while on guard protecting his fellow soldiers, he betrayed them.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
Capt Gregory Prickett
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PO3 Steven Sherrill - First, treason is defined in the U.S. Constitution, in Art. III, §3, cl. 1. To be a traitor, one must have committed treason.

Second, no one denigrated any combat veteran, but the Constitution also states that Congress has the sole power to declare war. And Korea, Vietnam, etc., were not declared wars. And that has a legal effect on charges under the UCMJ.
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