Posted on Mar 4, 2022
Abortions after 15 weeks are one signature away from being banned in Florida
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Abortions after 15 weeks would be banned in Florida under a bill Republican senators sent to Gov. Ron DeSantis late on Thursday, capping a bitter debate in the statehouse as a looming U.S. Supreme Court decision may limit abortion rights in America.
DeSantis, a Republican, has previously signaled his support for the proposal and is expected to sign it into law.
"I want abortion to be legal, safe and accessible but I fear this bill moves us in the other direction, forcing women with means to travel out of state and those struggling economically to resort to potentially dangerous options," said Sen. Lori Berman, a Democrat.
Abortions after 15 weeks would be banned in Florida under a bill Republican senators sent to Gov. Ron DeSantis late on Thursday, capping a bitter debate in the statehouse as a looming U.S. Supreme Court decision may limit abortion rights in America.
DeSantis, a Republican, has previously signaled his support for the proposal and is expected to sign it into law.
"I want abortion to be legal, safe and accessible but I fear this bill moves us in the other direction, forcing women with means to travel out of state and those struggling economically to resort to potentially dangerous options," said Sen. Lori Berman, a Democrat.
Abortions after 15 weeks are one signature away from being banned in Florida
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Just another Republican assault on a woman's reproductive rights.
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SFC Terry Stinnett
PO1 Jeff Chandler if you read the article you cited in it's entirety
"You aren't really hearing the heartbeat. You are hearing the amplified "beat frequency" generated by the interaction between the outgoing ultrasound signal, and the returning ultrasound signal. When the outgoing signal is reflected back by a moving object (fetal heart), then the returning signal has a slightly higher frequency (if the object is moving toward the transducer), or slightly lower frequency (if the object is moving away). This is called the Doppler shift. Every so often, the peaks and valleys of these slightly different frequencies are superimposed on each other, creating a much louder sound, that happens to be in the audible range. It is this sound that you are hearing."
All that attention to detail stuff....
"You aren't really hearing the heartbeat. You are hearing the amplified "beat frequency" generated by the interaction between the outgoing ultrasound signal, and the returning ultrasound signal. When the outgoing signal is reflected back by a moving object (fetal heart), then the returning signal has a slightly higher frequency (if the object is moving toward the transducer), or slightly lower frequency (if the object is moving away). This is called the Doppler shift. Every so often, the peaks and valleys of these slightly different frequencies are superimposed on each other, creating a much louder sound, that happens to be in the audible range. It is this sound that you are hearing."
All that attention to detail stuff....
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PO2 Russell "Russ" Lincoln
SFC Terry Stinnett - Thank you for posting that. I enjoyed hearing the good doctor taking the men to task.
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SFC Terry Stinnett
PO1 Jeff Chandler it's the start of the development of the heart as an organ as we know it however, at 6 weeks, an embryo doesn’t have a fully formed heart, but rather a cluster of cells that emits electrical signals. Those electrical signals are from the "pacemaker" region of cells, and that electrical signals is what is detected. It isn’t until 16 to 18 weeks of gestation that the heart, valves, and vessels can be seen on an ultrasound, so as I mentioned, even at 15 weeks gestation (pre viability) the heart as we know it in the neonate isn't formed. I'm not saying the fetal heart detection by ultrasound is fake, I'm saying it's not a fully formed heart. And significantly it's not until 16-18 weeks in gestation that some fatal/terminal heart defects can be detected. Have you sat with a woman who has gone through labor and delivery to deliver a stillborn child ?
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PO2 Russell "Russ" Lincoln
PO1 Jeff Chandler - no reason to make personal attacks just because we have a difference of opinion.
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SFC Terry Stinnett - I believe they typically do. I stand behind my statement, "When conception is a choice, abortion is murder."
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