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This posting NEEDS to stay up in full context.

This is a post about past, current and future Presidents of the United States and why they take the oath of office. It entails what it would mean if a future president wouldn’t take and uphold the oath.

You have a former ELECTED United States President filling in court that he was under no obligation, nor did he TAKE an oath to the constitution.

If this post is TRULY about the office of the Presidency then these FACTS should be shown to the military, veterans and United States Citizens who in November 2024’ will make an INFORMED DECISION at the polls.

Again I’m just a visitor on Rally Point, you control the narratives.

I’m trying to both heal, inform and unit using FACTS … not opinions, not feeling or beliefs.

All the following information are FACTS that ANYONE on RALLY POINT can cross-reference, FACT check from other sources outside of those I provided.

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Executive Branch: President and Vice President of the United States

According to the 20th Amendment to the Constitution, a President's term of office begins at 12:00 p.m. (noon) on January 20th of the year following an election. To assume his or her duties, the President-elect must take the Oath of Office as stated in Article II, Section I , Clause 8 of the Constitution:

Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation: – “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

The Constitution does not say what the swearing-in must include. While most Presidents-elect chose a Bible, as George Washington did, John Quincy Adams used a book of law, and Teddy Roosevelt did not use any book.

The President-elect is usually sworn in by the Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, but not always. Lyndon Johnson was sworn in by Sarah T. Hughes, a U.S. District Judge in Texas, after the death of John F. Kennedy. Calvin Coolidge was sworn in by his father, a notary public and justice of the peace, after the death of Warren G. Harding.


The Vice President also takes an oath of office. Until 1933, the Vice President took the oath of office in the Senate; today, both the President and Vice President are inaugurated in the same ceremony. The Vice President's oath is administered immediately before the President's. The Vice President's oath may be administered by the retiring Vice President, by a member of Congress, or by some other Government official, such as a justice of the Supreme Court. The Vice President's oath is as follows:

"I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same: that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, and I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God."

SOURCE : https://bensguide.gpo.gov/j-oath-office#:~:text=Before%20he%20enter%20on%20the,Constitution%20of%20the%20United%20States.”


1.) Why does the new president take the oath of office? [demonstrate a commitment that s/he will do her job and respect the principles of the government of the United States. The Constitution requires that the new president take

* 2.) Why does s/he have to promise to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution? [The president is not above the Constitution. S/he must follow the guidelines in the Constitution such as respecting the separation of powers and protecting individual rights.]

3.) What if the person did not have to pledge to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution? [The President might abuse his/her power. The Constitution ensures that there is a balance of power between the executive, legislative, and judicial branch. It also protects individual rights. Without the Constitution, the President might try to take away individual rights or overpower the legislative and judicial branches.]

SOURCE : https://www.jfklibrary.org/learn/education/teachers/curricular-resources/the-presidents-pledge#:~:text=The%20Constitution%20requires%20that%20the,Article%20II%20Section%201).%5D


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1.) Trump legal news brief: Trump’s lawyers say he did not take an oath ‘to support the Constitution’

Yahoo News' succinct daily update on the criminal and civil cases against the 45th president of the United States.

In a filing made to the Colorado Supreme Court, lawyers for former President Donald Trump say that he never took an oath “to support the Constitution of the United States’’ and should therefore not be banned from the state’s presidential ballots in 2024 based on Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. In the New York financial fraud civil trial, an executive with Deutsche Bank testifies about the favorable loan rates the bank gave Trump and the decision to part ways with one of its most famous clients. Here are the latest developments in the legal cases involving the man looking to return to the White House.

Jan. 6 election interference

Trump’s lawyers say he never took oath ‘to support the Constitution’

Key players: Colorado Supreme Court, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW), Colorado District Judge Sarah Wallace

* Filings submitted to the Colorado Supreme Court this week from lawyers for Trump and CREW presented opposing views on whether Trump’s role in the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol violated his oath of office and, under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution, made him ineligible to run again, Truthout reported.

* Section 3 bars those found to have engaged in “insurrection or rebellion” and who had previously taken an oath “to support the Constitution” from holding elected office again. But Trump’s attorneys argued it was not applicable due to the stature of the presidency and the wording of the oath.

* “Section Three does not apply, because the presidency is not an office ‘under the United States,’ the president is not an ‘officer of the United States,’ and President Trump did not take an oath ‘to support the Constitution of the United States,'” Trump’s lawyers wrote.

* Instead, the attorneys noted, Trump swore “to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution.”

* CREW, which is representing six Colorado voters appealing Wallace’s ruling that Trump’s name could remain on state ballots, argued Trump’s argument was merely semantic.

* “The Constitution" CREW stated in its brief to the court, "explicitly tells us, over and over, that the Presidency is an ‘office.’ The natural meaning of ‘officer of the United States’ is anyone who holds a federal ‘office.’ And the natural reading of ‘oath to support the Constitution’ includes the stronger Presidential oath to ‘preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution.’”

* The court has scheduled a hearing to hear arguments in the matter on Dec. 6.

Why it matters: Whatever the Colorado Supreme Court decides, its ruling will likely be appealed and the case will likely make its way to the U.S. Supreme Court. At the heart of the case is the question of what limits the Constitution puts on presidential power.

SOURCE : https://news.yahoo.com/trump-legal-news-brief-trumps-lawyers-say-he-did-not-take-an-oath-to-support-the-constitution-201628633.html



2.) NEWS | POLITICS & ELECTIONS

Trump’s Latest Legal Defense: He Didn’t Take Oath to “Support” the Constitution
The Colorado Supreme Court is weighing whether to bar Trump from appearing on the state ballot next year.

By Chris Walker , TRUTHOUT
Published
November 28, 2023

Lawyers for former President Donald Trump filed a brief with the Colorado state Supreme Court this week arguing that a constitutional provision that would disallow him from being able to run for the presidency again in 2024 should be ignored because, as they put it, he never made an oath, as president, to “support” the Constitution.

The argument is one of semantics, as the president of the United States is sworn in through a different oath than members of Congress or other government officials.

Article II of the U.S. Constitution requires presidents-elect to read an oath promising to “preserve, protect and defend” the document as they are being sworn into office.

Six residents in Colorado sued to have Trump barred from being able to appear on the state ballot next year as a candidate for president, citing Section 3 of the 14th Amendment — sometimes known as the insurrectionist clause — as their basis for doing so. That provision states that no person can be elected to any office within the United States if they have served in a position where they “previously [took] an oath … to support the Constitution” while subsequently engaging in “insurrection or rebellion” or giving aid or comfort to those who have engaged in such activities.

Because the language of the amendment says “support” rather than any of the words used in the presidential oath of office, Trump’s lawyers contend the provision doesn’t apply to him. The former president’s lawyers claim this difference in the language was “purposefully” created by the authors of the amendment.

SOURCE : https://truthout.org/articles/trumps-latest-legal-defense-he-didnt-take-oath-to-support-the-constitution/


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NEWS | POLITICS & ELECTIONS
Colorado Supreme Court Agrees to Hear 14th Amendment Case to Disqualify Trump

A district court judge last week ruled Trump was an insurrectionist but could still run for president.

November 22, 2023

Colorado’s state Supreme Court has agreed to hear an appeal of a recently decided case involving former President Donald Trump’s eligibility to run for president again under a constitutional provision that forbids former lawmakers and government officials who engaged in insurrection from seeking public office of any kind.
The state’s highest court issued its order approving the writ of certiorari on Tuesday. Both sides in the matter are now required to appear before the court on December 6 to present arguments defending their positions.

If the court rules in favor of plaintiffs, Trump’s name would not appear on either the primary election ballot, nor the general election ballot, in next year’s presidential race. Colorado is not necessarily a swing state — Trump lost to President Joe Biden in the 2020 presidential election by more than 13 points — but the outcome of the case, if Trump is indeed removed, could inspire other states to take similar actions against the former president.

SOURCE : https://truthout.org/articles/colorado-supreme-court-agrees-to-hear-14th-amendment-case-to-disqualify-trump/


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“I will not apologize for telling the FACTS, in a world that worship the lies”.
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CPL LaForest Gray thanks for sharing the FACTS...
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1.) Fascism
Definition

A form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion.


- From “The Anatomy of Fascism,” by Robert Paxton

a sense of overwhelming crisis beyond the reach of traditional solutions

the primacy of the group, toward which one has duties superior to every right, whether individual or universal, and the subordination of the individual to it

the belief that one’s group is a victim, a sentiment that justifies any action, without legal or moral limits, against its enemies, both internal and external

dread of a group’s decline under the corrosive effects of individualistic liberalism, class conflict, and alien influences

the need for closer integration of a purer community, by consent if possible, or by violence if necessary

the need for authority by natural chiefs (always male), culminating in a national chieftain who is capable of incarnating the groups’ historical destiny

the superiority of the leader’s instincts over abstract and universal reason

the beauty of violence and the efficacy of will, when they are devoted to the group’s successes

the right of the chosen people to dominate others without restraint

SOURCE : https://www.wisdc.org/news/trump-and-fascism



2.) What Fascism Looks Like When it Comes into Power :

In 1979, when al-Bakr attempted to unite Iraq and Syria, in a move that would have left Saddam effectively powerless, Saddam forced al-Bakr to resign, and on July 16, 1979, Saddam Hussein became president of Iraq. Less than a week later, he called an assembly of the Ba'ath Party.”

https://youtu.be/kLUktJbp2Ug

https://youtu.be/OynP5pnvWOs

fascism
[fash-iz-uh m]
noun
(sometimes initial capital letter)a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

2.) sometimes initial capital letter)the philosophy, principles, or methods of fascism.

initial capital letter)a political movement that employs the principles and methods of fascism, especially the one established by Mussolini in Italy 1922–43.
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V1 : https://youtu.be/kLUktJbp2Ug?si=wWFhro8HHNypH7Fn

No Dictator nor a dictatorship regime will EVER be established.

Ever.

V1 : https://youtu.be/S4hHOjrbQ6w?si=vZHr8GoGjvTM6MX_


1.) REPUBLICANS NOW DEMAND PRISON FOR TRUMP CRITICS

Trump tells Glenn Beck he’d ‘lock up’ political opponents if reelected
BY DOMINICK MASTRANGELO 08/30/23 09:26 AM ET

Former President Trump told conservative media personality Glenn Beck he would prosecute his political enemies if elected president again.

“You said in 2016, you know, ‘Lock her up,'” Beck reminded Trump of his statements about Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton in 2016 during an appearance on his BlazeTV show Tuesday. “And then when you became president, you said, ‘We don’t do that in America. That’s just not the right thing to do.'”

“That’s what they’re doing,” Beck continued, asking the former president, “Do you regret not locking her up? And if you’re president again, will you lock people up?”

Trump, who dismissed the various charges he faces in Georgia, New York, Florida and Washington, D.C., said there is “no choice.”

“Well, I’ll give you an example… The answer is you have no choice, because they’re doing it to us,” Trump said, adding that he “never hit Biden as hard as I could have.”

SOURCE : https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4178537-trump-tells-glenn-beck-hed-lock-up-political-opponents-if-reelected/amp/


2.) Donald Trump’s Political Prisoners
By Masha Gessen
October 12, 2016

SOURCE : https://www.newyorker.com/news/amy-davidson/trump-shows-his-inner-dictator


3.) Here Are Some People Who Actually Jailed Their Political Opponents Post-Election

Donald Trump raised the threat of arrest during the second presidential debate with Hillary Clinton on Sunday night.

During the second presidential debate Sunday night, Republican nominee Donald Trump told Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton she would be put in jail if he becomes president.

Trump's threat to lock up a political enemy puts him in the company of authoritarian leaders around the world. Here are some of the world leaders who have followed through and jailed an opponent after an election, fueling outrage around the globe:

1. Former Ukrainian president Viktor Fedorovych Yanukovych

2. Myanmar's military junta.
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It’s a call to rally his troops/more militia ….
{Hitler/Stalin/Saddam Hussein}

Former president Donald Trump dangles prospect of pardons for Jan. 6 defendants
5:46 am EST Jan. 30, 2022

"If I run and if I win, we will treat those people from January 6th fairly," Trump said Saturday night during a rally in Conroe, Texas. "And if it requires pardons, we will give them pardons because they are being treated so unfairly."


https://youtu.be/uU5l5ZUegas


Oath Keepers Cached Weapons for Jan. 6 Capitol Attack, Prosecutors Say
Cartloads of arms and ammunition were at the ready at a Virginia hotel, according to an indictment against members of the far-right militia group


SOURCE :

Oath Keepers Cached Weapons for Jan. 6 Capitol Attack, Prosecutors Say1 day ago


* POLITICS
Here’s Every Weapon The Capitol Rioters Are Accused Of Having On Jan. 6

Guns, knives, bats, chemicals, stolen police gear, flagpoles, a “Trump 2020” sign, pieces of metal and wood, crutches, a skateboard, stun devices, a crow bar, and a firecracker.

SOURCE :

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/zoetillman/capitol-riot-weapons-charges


Most heavily armed January 6 rioter pleads guilty to bringing five firearms and 11 Molotov cocktails to Capitol
Lonnie Coffman admits federal weapons charges after bringing arsenal of firearms and explosive devices to Capitol

Rachel Sharp
Saturday 13 November 2021 16:27

SOURCE :

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/capitol-riot-molotov-cocktail-trump-b1957164.html?amp


If you didn’t understand before & you still don’t …

Saddam's 1979 Baath Party purge

The BBC's John Simpson looks at footage of the moment Saddam Hussein carried out a very public purge of more than 60 senior members of the ruling Baath Party,

https://youtu.be/U9HgdVN9C_k


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I am not a lawyer but it seems strange to me
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It's a shame we must constantly fight the enemy within in what is probably he most straightforward case against Trump.
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