Posted on May 3, 2023
Future doctors say they're discouraged from working in states with abortion bans
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"Residency programs in states with bans in place saw a drop in the number of OB-GYN residency applications, according to recent data from the Association of American Medical Colleges."
Future doctors say they're discouraged from working in states with abortion bans
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LTC Eugene Chu They do sound like "Hostile" work environments where Religious Laws ignore True Science and Medicine.
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The article contains at least one factual inaccuracy and disguises / ignores an important factor.
First, the inaccuracy... the infographic in the middle of the article shows decline in residency applications for 2023. 10.5 in total ban states, 6.4 in gestational limit states, and 5.3 in no limit states. For an average of.... 5.2%??? There is no way you can weight those numbers to have an average that is lower than any of the individual sectors. Which makes me seriously question the underlying numbers.
Second, residency programs are for learning. Even if a doctor never intends to preform abortions, a competent OB-GYN needs to know how to do them for those times when it may be medically necessary. Therefore, it make much more sense to go where they can learn. If you want to be an ER doctor, do you go to learn at Hicksville, USA or a trauma center in NYC?
A state which povides you a higher probability to learn the skills you hope never to have to use - but should know, just in case - is obviously smarter.
So, yes, this makes obvious sense. But it says nothing about where those folks are going once they are out of their residency or about their actual views on the issue.
I live not too far from Vanderbilt. Future doctors come from far and wide to learn there. It's not John's Hopkins, but it is WAY up there. Just because someone comes to Vanderbilt to learn does not mean anything about their views on Tennessee.
First, the inaccuracy... the infographic in the middle of the article shows decline in residency applications for 2023. 10.5 in total ban states, 6.4 in gestational limit states, and 5.3 in no limit states. For an average of.... 5.2%??? There is no way you can weight those numbers to have an average that is lower than any of the individual sectors. Which makes me seriously question the underlying numbers.
Second, residency programs are for learning. Even if a doctor never intends to preform abortions, a competent OB-GYN needs to know how to do them for those times when it may be medically necessary. Therefore, it make much more sense to go where they can learn. If you want to be an ER doctor, do you go to learn at Hicksville, USA or a trauma center in NYC?
A state which povides you a higher probability to learn the skills you hope never to have to use - but should know, just in case - is obviously smarter.
So, yes, this makes obvious sense. But it says nothing about where those folks are going once they are out of their residency or about their actual views on the issue.
I live not too far from Vanderbilt. Future doctors come from far and wide to learn there. It's not John's Hopkins, but it is WAY up there. Just because someone comes to Vanderbilt to learn does not mean anything about their views on Tennessee.
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MAJ Byron Oyler
I have a bachelor of science which requires a semester of both research and statistics and the more I have seen polls done the more I believe you can easily target an audience. Healthcare providers have a tendency to be more liberal in health matter because we are there to treat your needs as you feel their needs are. You have some very valid points. Back to the target audience, I saw on the news tonight that 76% of Texans support raising the age to purchase a firearm. Total BS, they must have done the survey in all the blue cities focusing on Austin.
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I find it humorous that pro-abortion mouthpieces sound off about "religious laws."
"We [pro-life atheists] see abortion not as a culture war issue or as a religious issue but as a human rights issue." - Kelsey Hazzard. (See the link.)
Or "true science." The true science is that human life exists on a spectrum and a healthy fertilized ovum is the first point on that spectrum. Preserved from outside intervention it will be a human baby, not a carrot or a parrot. In more than 98% of cases embryos and fetuses are terminated because they are an inconvenience. The logical extension is that we are justified in terminating people that are inconvenient.
According to the Guttmacher Institute (Planned Parenthood's public research arm) less than 0.6% of abortions are for medical reasons [I have ZERO objections to medically necessary abortions].
What other "religious laws" shall we do away with?
-Thou shalt not kill.
-Thou shalt not steal
-Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor
I mean after all they are "religious laws," so let's nullify them. Right?
https://www.americamafgazine.org/politics-society/2017/10/19/atheists-case-against-abortion-respect-human-rights-227462
"We [pro-life atheists] see abortion not as a culture war issue or as a religious issue but as a human rights issue." - Kelsey Hazzard. (See the link.)
Or "true science." The true science is that human life exists on a spectrum and a healthy fertilized ovum is the first point on that spectrum. Preserved from outside intervention it will be a human baby, not a carrot or a parrot. In more than 98% of cases embryos and fetuses are terminated because they are an inconvenience. The logical extension is that we are justified in terminating people that are inconvenient.
According to the Guttmacher Institute (Planned Parenthood's public research arm) less than 0.6% of abortions are for medical reasons [I have ZERO objections to medically necessary abortions].
What other "religious laws" shall we do away with?
-Thou shalt not kill.
-Thou shalt not steal
-Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor
I mean after all they are "religious laws," so let's nullify them. Right?
https://www.americamafgazine.org/politics-society/2017/10/19/atheists-case-against-abortion-respect-human-rights-227462
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