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1st Lt Padre Dave Poedel
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As a Pastor who was required to fill out forms every year reporting the number of Baptisms, Funerals, transfers in and out, I can tell you that the losses are likely much more than that. Most years I just turned in the same stats as the year before because it was too depressing to report the truth….and I am a conservative, confessional Lutheran. With the removal of almost everything biblical, the liberal church must face the fact that without the saving message of Christ you are no longer a church!
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LTC Thomas Tennant
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AMEN....I did not know the Lutheran Church was on the same slide downward.
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1st Lt Padre Dave Poedel
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LTC Thomas Tennant - Yes, even the conservative Lutheran churches are declining. I serve an amazing congregation that is growing, but that is the exception. My own assessment is that we have way too many churches in geographic areas where they were once popular. Also, the “big box” non denominational churches siphon off lots of folks, and then those folks just get tired and stop participating. The COVID thing hit churches hard as well.
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The concerted effort from all parts of society to suppress belief in the Christ is having it's effect.

"Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God." 2 Thessalonians 2:3 NKLV

“Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. 13But he who endures to the end shall be saved." Matthew 24: 9-13 NKJV
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Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth - There is an old Orthodox Christian saying:

"The streets of Hell are paved with the skulls of errant priests, and the lamp posts are their bishops."
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Bishop Iker's split with 815 should have been a wake up call but just as reported of the Jew's:

'For this people’s heart has grown dull, and with their ears they can barely hear, and their eyes they have closed, lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears and understand with their heart and turn, and I would heal them.’

The Gospel according to St. Matthew 13:15
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Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
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I believe it is false biblical teachings. The bible is neither to be added to nor anything taken away from it. It is to be read as is and is without error and is the infallible, inerrant, holy word of God.
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