Posted on Jul 22, 2022
Denver police injure 5 bystanders in LoDo while shooting man who allegedly pointed gun at...
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Ah, come on. This is one of the four basic gun safety rules and I expect the police to know it. Be sure of your target and what's beyond your target. This just is more evidence that the police, in general, are more concerned with their safety than the safety of the public. Something has to change.
Denver police injure 5 bystanders in LoDo while shooting man who allegedly pointed gun at...
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The POLICE have been under fire from seemingly everyone since the current administration took office... I am sure that they fear for their lives when under circumstances like the one in this Denver Post article... I am not saying that they should not obey the safety rules, but police from a broad national standpoint don't know who might shoot them from the side or from behind... Criminals seem to be safe, while police are not... What has to change, in my view is that we have to stiffly penalize criminal behavior and not condone it as we have been since the fall of 2020! Further, this whole idea of defunding the POLICE has to stop, Period! Just saying...
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SPC Kevin Ford
I understand. On the other side, police can't just go negligently shooting into a group of people because they feel threatened by one person. This was just a bunch of people out on the town on a Saturday night going about their lives with no connection to the person the police shot at. Five innocent bystanders got shot and the only people shooting at all were the police. When this happens, that makes the jobs of police more dangerous and difficult.
A lot of the blowback on police is self inflicted just due to incidents like this. The police need to be held in high regard and to high standards. If the former doesn't happen, the prior won't. Like Uvalde, this was not an example of high standards of conduct in policing. We need high standards because it is good for all police, it's makes it so the public can rightly hold them in high regard.
A lot of the blowback on police is self inflicted just due to incidents like this. The police need to be held in high regard and to high standards. If the former doesn't happen, the prior won't. Like Uvalde, this was not an example of high standards of conduct in policing. We need high standards because it is good for all police, it's makes it so the public can rightly hold them in high regard.
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Not knowing all the facts, I will say this....
Police firearms training is woefully inadequate. In my state, you only have to qualify with 36 rounds, once a year. Standing still and shooting no further than 25 feet.
You fight how you train.
Police firearms training is woefully inadequate. In my state, you only have to qualify with 36 rounds, once a year. Standing still and shooting no further than 25 feet.
You fight how you train.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
True in some Department's but in my own Department however We had regular qualification every four months plus another night shooting qualification plus in addition shoot don't shoot drills. That's five separate actual range training sessions every year as a minimum. Range sessions were fired 50 rounds regular qualification a different distances plus 50 more rounds at multiple targets drawing from the holster to shoot. In addition with the 12 gage shotgun We fired 25 rounds, 15 of the 12 gage .00 buck and 10 rounds of rifled slugs. He did have shotguns in the Patrol Cars in lectic lock devices. Formal classroom sessions were also held in addition to range time which included when or when not to bring the shotgun out and how to keep it secure including not laying it insecure down to cuff a suspect for instance. More recently the M4 full auto had been added after I retired and once again full training on proper use.
I do find overall in Massachusetts Police Firearm training is far superior to what is seen in many other states including when to shoot and when not to shoot.
I do find overall in Massachusetts Police Firearm training is far superior to what is seen in many other states including when to shoot and when not to shoot.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter - The last time anyone in most of the surrounding departments had any shoot/don't shoot training was probably the police academy. If you're lucky enough to be an firearms instructor, like I was, we had some training then.
And when you see budgets being cut like they are now, usually training budgets are the first thing to go.
And when you see budgets being cut like they are now, usually training budgets are the first thing to go.
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Until I know all the facts related to this incident I will not make any judgements.
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