Posted on Nov 22, 2021
'The laws allow a baby to be born' Trump's abortion speech gaffe-/subscribe/
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I just don't get how people listen to this person speak and say "Yeah that makes sense."
I mean - yes abortion laws do allow people to give birth IF they choose that. Also "late term" abortion is a political term. Not a medical term.
"According to the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology, "the term 'late-term abortion' has no medical definition and is not used in a clinical setting or to describe the delivery of abortion care later in pregnancy."
Adds Gillian Dean, M.D., MPH, senior director of medical services at Planned Parenthood Federation of America: "People who oppose abortion have made up terms—such as 'partial-birth abortion' and 'late-term abortion'—to further stigmatize ending a pregnancy. To be clear: There is no such thing as an abortion up until birth, and 'late-term abortion' is not a term used by reputable health care providers.""
Look at countries where abortion is illegal today - and look at how many people die from that. Look at how many died in the US when it was illegal. Making it illegal doesn't stop it - it just stops poor people and POC from getting them. Rich white women or the mistresses of rich white men are still going to get them as they did before Roe.
Not your body, not your business. Abortion is healthcare. Period.
I mean - yes abortion laws do allow people to give birth IF they choose that. Also "late term" abortion is a political term. Not a medical term.
"According to the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology, "the term 'late-term abortion' has no medical definition and is not used in a clinical setting or to describe the delivery of abortion care later in pregnancy."
Adds Gillian Dean, M.D., MPH, senior director of medical services at Planned Parenthood Federation of America: "People who oppose abortion have made up terms—such as 'partial-birth abortion' and 'late-term abortion'—to further stigmatize ending a pregnancy. To be clear: There is no such thing as an abortion up until birth, and 'late-term abortion' is not a term used by reputable health care providers.""
Look at countries where abortion is illegal today - and look at how many people die from that. Look at how many died in the US when it was illegal. Making it illegal doesn't stop it - it just stops poor people and POC from getting them. Rich white women or the mistresses of rich white men are still going to get them as they did before Roe.
Not your body, not your business. Abortion is healthcare. Period.
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I'm pro-choice because there is already near a billion little kids running around the planet now that don't get proper care. If you are so anti-abortion, go and adopt about 10 kids that need taking care of, then you won't have time to try to mind anyone else's business.
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SR Kenneth Beck - That is only if you assume a clump of cells is a human. I care about bodily autonomy for men and women. A woman should never be forced against her will to remain pregnant......period.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
Kenneth - Pregnancy is extremely dangerous for people in the US. The US has the highest maternal mortality rate of ALL developed nations. All. I almost died from giving birth from preeclampsia- something they still haven't figured out exactly why it happens.
"If a blind man tried to warn a sighted neighbor about an unscrupulous optometrist, would we tell him to butt out because he can’t, see? Do we tell young people they have no business trying to stop the abuse of the elderly in nursing homes? Should adults refuse to address child abuse because it doesn't affect them? No. We don't shut people out from involvement in issues just because they are not directly affected.
In fact, we admire people more when they stand up for others. What kind of man would just sit idly by while women were being raped, mutilated, and killed? The word "coward" comes to mind. Yet this is exactly what these pro-abortion feminists seem to want men to be: cowards who allow women to be raped, mutilated, and killed by abortionists. They want men to wash their hands of the matter. They want men to say, "Well, since it's not my problem, why should I care?"
Perhaps I have a concern for the women."
What the actual...none of that is comparable. At all. None.
Abortion is an individual healthcare issue. Perhaps if we taught comprehensive sex ed, had better access to birth control and such then abortion wouldn't be an issue. Abortion has actually decreased when there is all those things in place.
It probably will decrease more - because younger adults are saying they don't want to have children because they can't afford them. I think birth rates have been decreasing actually.
I just don't get how people like you are so anti-abortion. It's ONE choice. Not THE only choice.
"If a blind man tried to warn a sighted neighbor about an unscrupulous optometrist, would we tell him to butt out because he can’t, see? Do we tell young people they have no business trying to stop the abuse of the elderly in nursing homes? Should adults refuse to address child abuse because it doesn't affect them? No. We don't shut people out from involvement in issues just because they are not directly affected.
In fact, we admire people more when they stand up for others. What kind of man would just sit idly by while women were being raped, mutilated, and killed? The word "coward" comes to mind. Yet this is exactly what these pro-abortion feminists seem to want men to be: cowards who allow women to be raped, mutilated, and killed by abortionists. They want men to wash their hands of the matter. They want men to say, "Well, since it's not my problem, why should I care?"
Perhaps I have a concern for the women."
What the actual...none of that is comparable. At all. None.
Abortion is an individual healthcare issue. Perhaps if we taught comprehensive sex ed, had better access to birth control and such then abortion wouldn't be an issue. Abortion has actually decreased when there is all those things in place.
It probably will decrease more - because younger adults are saying they don't want to have children because they can't afford them. I think birth rates have been decreasing actually.
I just don't get how people like you are so anti-abortion. It's ONE choice. Not THE only choice.
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I am pro-choice though I would never want my Wife to abort.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/07/23/racism-eugenics-margaret-sanger-deserves-no-honors-column/ [login to see] /
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/07/23/racism-eugenics-margaret-sanger-deserves-no-honors-column/ [login to see] /
Remove statues of Margaret Sanger, Planned Parenthood founder tied to eugenics and racism
How a woman who advocated for selective breeding of her fellow citizens came to be memorialized with those who built a country is hard to understand.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
Kenneth - Oh like how you block people? Maybe you should take your own advice and listen to the quotes you post.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff yes but abortion clinics are part of the original ladies systemic racism to get rid of blacks and Chinese. She is tied to the k k k and that's what Hitler did with his final solution. He would political opponents, gays, Jehovah Witnesses, those with deformities oh, those with autism or mental retardation, Jews of Sephardic or even European stock, not just the ones that look like Anne Frank and the legacy of that exist today in the abortion clinics.
Hypocritical BLM only cares about black people killed by whites police officers even though blacks are more inclined to be killed by their own people by their own race. The media spin on The Rittenhouse acquittal has gone into rabid I Am Legend zombie mode. I just have to remind people hear that Margaret Sanger is the real racist not Kyle Rittenhouse.
PFC David Foster SFC Kelly Fuerhoff MSgt Steve Sweeney 1SG Jason Hastings SR Kenneth Beck
https://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2020/02/25/abortion-the-overlooked-tragedy-for-black-americans/
Hypocritical BLM only cares about black people killed by whites police officers even though blacks are more inclined to be killed by their own people by their own race. The media spin on The Rittenhouse acquittal has gone into rabid I Am Legend zombie mode. I just have to remind people hear that Margaret Sanger is the real racist not Kyle Rittenhouse.
PFC David Foster SFC Kelly Fuerhoff MSgt Steve Sweeney 1SG Jason Hastings SR Kenneth Beck
https://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2020/02/25/abortion-the-overlooked-tragedy-for-black-americans/
Abortion: The overlooked tragedy for black Americans | Arizona Capitol Times
During February, which is Black History Month, it is a good time to look upon the triumphs and tragedies in African American history. Movies like Harriet tell of heroes of the Underground Railroad and the struggle against slavery. It is good to honor those stories. There is, however, one tragedy of the African American community that is often overlooked: the tragedy of legalized abortion.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
LTC (Join to see) - Why do you act like I don't know who Margaret Sanger was? That's not what PP is about anymore and hasn't been for decades.
BLM isn't hypocritical at all. I think you only watch certain news outlets or mediums because BLM advocates against ALL police brutality. When Daniel Shaver was murdered by police (a white man) BLM added him into their protests. In fact, they often include white victims of police brutality when they are protesting.
Also strange how you say "black on black crime" but you never say "white on white" crime. That's just called "crime." The only people who say "BlAcK On BlAck CrIme" are racists. Period.
But I heard nothing from the supposed "All Lives Matter" crowd about him or any white victim of police brutality. Why not? Where are they if "all" lives matter?
I find it strange you went into this weird defensive stance that had nothing to do with my reply to you when I simply said "Good thing it's not up to you" in deciding if your wife can abort a pregnancy or not. Why so defensive?
BLM isn't hypocritical at all. I think you only watch certain news outlets or mediums because BLM advocates against ALL police brutality. When Daniel Shaver was murdered by police (a white man) BLM added him into their protests. In fact, they often include white victims of police brutality when they are protesting.
Also strange how you say "black on black crime" but you never say "white on white" crime. That's just called "crime." The only people who say "BlAcK On BlAck CrIme" are racists. Period.
But I heard nothing from the supposed "All Lives Matter" crowd about him or any white victim of police brutality. Why not? Where are they if "all" lives matter?
I find it strange you went into this weird defensive stance that had nothing to do with my reply to you when I simply said "Good thing it's not up to you" in deciding if your wife can abort a pregnancy or not. Why so defensive?
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Sgt Jerry Genesio
Those who oppose abortion shouldn't have one. The choice of others is none of their business.
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