Posted on Sep 15, 2021
Vindman calls for Milley's resignation: 'He usurped civilian authority'
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A) Vindman ain't wrong.
B) He should know, the pot and kettle both being black.
B) He should know, the pot and kettle both being black.
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Military command at all levels has limits, specifically when following a given order would lead to an unlawful act. Service members swear their oath to the Constitution, not to the President or their line commander. We are all duty-bound to disobey even a direct order from the commander in chief that would lead to a war crime and/or an unlawful action. I agree it can get fraught if it's happening willy-nilly but the expectation is that dilemma should be rare or even non-existent. In this instance, I think it could be well argued that Milley was confronted with the very real possibility an unlawful order was more likely to come down the pike in the near future. In that case, his remarks to the other senior officers reminding them to follow the complete chain of command *was* carrying out his sworn & lawful duty. Also, when he reassured the Chinese that the US's usual process of war-making (ie increasing troop movements & buildups, declaration of war from the legislature, etc.) would happen in that case as well, and since it hadn't there was no reason for them to increase their threat posture- or even worse carry out a nuclear first strike- was a massive defense of the country. It's not as "sexy" as shooting things or blowing them up, but when applied at the right time they can save way more lives.
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1LT William Clardy
Respectfully, I have to disagree.
Diplomatic relations are above even general officers' pay grade.
And even if reaching out to reassure the Chinese was necessary, whyinthehell would Milley not coordinate with the State Department (who happen to have the diplomacy mission), PFC Eileen Faucette? This was not the dramatic climax of a Tom Clancy novel, and Milley is no Jack Ryan.
Diplomatic relations are above even general officers' pay grade.
And even if reaching out to reassure the Chinese was necessary, whyinthehell would Milley not coordinate with the State Department (who happen to have the diplomacy mission), PFC Eileen Faucette? This was not the dramatic climax of a Tom Clancy novel, and Milley is no Jack Ryan.
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I don't. Vindman knows how nuts Trump is as good as the rest of the country.
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