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We are about to see what our military is made up of.. Those that will refuse on the grounds it is illegal, unconstitutional and immoral to be FORCED to take an UNTESTED EXPERIMENTAL vaccine, OR will it be sheep that cave in and just give up and accept what they are told to do with whimper?
It is amazing how people so quickly forget.. how they forgot what happened to so many military when they took the UNTESTED experimental anthrax vaccine after 9/11... and now today are classified fully disabled (those still alive) and under the care of the V/A directly due to that vaccine.
I am tired of the leftists bullshit and lies. I am tired of the propaganda. I am tired of all of it.
If you want the vaccine, by all means get it. Me? No way will that ever entire my body UNTIL I see proven vetted FULL trials and testing of the average 10+ years JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER FULLY AUTHORIZED FOR USE vaccine in this country and others.
The left pushes their stupid mask mandates when ANYONE with even basic common sense knows that all these stupid masks do NOTHING. Only an N95 or greater medically certified mask, have ANY impact on a virus. And then the left wants even vaccinated people to wear them? What laughable bout of utter idiocy that is.
I keep hearing the "if you don't get the vaccine you are killing others or spreading it others..." or on and on and on.... What the LEFT can't seem to comprehend is that ANYONE TODAY that WANTS the vaccine, can march right now and get it.
That means the only one left are those like me THAT ACCEPT THAT RISK and have decided with our own FREE WILL to live with that risk. Who are we hurting or a risk to? NO ONE... unless, that is, your precious little vaccine does not work and you just want everyone in the same stupidity boat you jumped into before checking to see if it was sinking.....
Of course, anyone with common sense and a heart, takes precautions and measures when we know we may interact with someone at risk due to auto immune problems who can't have the vaccine etc. COMMON SENSE is something we have, unlike the leftists apparently. We also stay HOME if we feel ill for whatever reason, whether it's covid or not has NO BEARING on that.. It is no different than if I had the flu, a cold, or anything else. You feel sick, you stay home.. COMMON SENSE.
Were I still active, I would REFUSE this so called mandate (which is NOT LAW nor a lawful order).
Sure, I would probably see mast or court martial being that we have a mentally ill person in the white house and a bunch of anti American anti Constitution rich elitists' in power now. So what when it comes to MY body and health, you put it through PROPER trials and testing, then I have no issue with it.
But there is something VERY VERY WRONG when the democrats very quietly push through a bill making ALL drug companies IMMUNE to any and all lawsuits and prosecution AND when you are required to SIGN a waiver when you get this vaccine...
There is something very very wrong when the CDC's OWN numbers and math prove out that LESS THAN .5% even have symptoms and less than that actually die from the thing.
How many of you know that while covid is around ~680,000 or so deaths, that CANCER is over 1 MILLION deaths in the SAME period as covid, that heart disease is over 1.1 MILLION deaths in the same period as covid and there are others as well?
Yet the left is not saying a single word about that fact. And what ever happened to the yearly scaremongering.. GET YOUR FLU VACCINE OR ELSE!?!? Was there even a flu this year? Yea... it's call covid.
Finally, over a year ago, I was infected with covid. NOTHING happened. Last week I was informed by the V/A I was exposed to delta covid.. I had a headache and what felt like a sinus infection for around 24-36 hours... and then it was gone.
I HAVE NOT had a shot, I do NOT wear a mask. And now I am immune NATURALLY. Both times I now have shown antibodies, first for the first infection and now for delta.
They left is playing a dangerous game. And it has nothing to do with the virus. The sad part is, there are still way too many Americans that can't seem to find their balls and refuse to bow down to the leftists mandates.
It is amazing how people so quickly forget.. how they forgot what happened to so many military when they took the UNTESTED experimental anthrax vaccine after 9/11... and now today are classified fully disabled (those still alive) and under the care of the V/A directly due to that vaccine.
I am tired of the leftists bullshit and lies. I am tired of the propaganda. I am tired of all of it.
If you want the vaccine, by all means get it. Me? No way will that ever entire my body UNTIL I see proven vetted FULL trials and testing of the average 10+ years JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER FULLY AUTHORIZED FOR USE vaccine in this country and others.
The left pushes their stupid mask mandates when ANYONE with even basic common sense knows that all these stupid masks do NOTHING. Only an N95 or greater medically certified mask, have ANY impact on a virus. And then the left wants even vaccinated people to wear them? What laughable bout of utter idiocy that is.
I keep hearing the "if you don't get the vaccine you are killing others or spreading it others..." or on and on and on.... What the LEFT can't seem to comprehend is that ANYONE TODAY that WANTS the vaccine, can march right now and get it.
That means the only one left are those like me THAT ACCEPT THAT RISK and have decided with our own FREE WILL to live with that risk. Who are we hurting or a risk to? NO ONE... unless, that is, your precious little vaccine does not work and you just want everyone in the same stupidity boat you jumped into before checking to see if it was sinking.....
Of course, anyone with common sense and a heart, takes precautions and measures when we know we may interact with someone at risk due to auto immune problems who can't have the vaccine etc. COMMON SENSE is something we have, unlike the leftists apparently. We also stay HOME if we feel ill for whatever reason, whether it's covid or not has NO BEARING on that.. It is no different than if I had the flu, a cold, or anything else. You feel sick, you stay home.. COMMON SENSE.
Were I still active, I would REFUSE this so called mandate (which is NOT LAW nor a lawful order).
Sure, I would probably see mast or court martial being that we have a mentally ill person in the white house and a bunch of anti American anti Constitution rich elitists' in power now. So what when it comes to MY body and health, you put it through PROPER trials and testing, then I have no issue with it.
But there is something VERY VERY WRONG when the democrats very quietly push through a bill making ALL drug companies IMMUNE to any and all lawsuits and prosecution AND when you are required to SIGN a waiver when you get this vaccine...
There is something very very wrong when the CDC's OWN numbers and math prove out that LESS THAN .5% even have symptoms and less than that actually die from the thing.
How many of you know that while covid is around ~680,000 or so deaths, that CANCER is over 1 MILLION deaths in the SAME period as covid, that heart disease is over 1.1 MILLION deaths in the same period as covid and there are others as well?
Yet the left is not saying a single word about that fact. And what ever happened to the yearly scaremongering.. GET YOUR FLU VACCINE OR ELSE!?!? Was there even a flu this year? Yea... it's call covid.
Finally, over a year ago, I was infected with covid. NOTHING happened. Last week I was informed by the V/A I was exposed to delta covid.. I had a headache and what felt like a sinus infection for around 24-36 hours... and then it was gone.
I HAVE NOT had a shot, I do NOT wear a mask. And now I am immune NATURALLY. Both times I now have shown antibodies, first for the first infection and now for delta.
They left is playing a dangerous game. And it has nothing to do with the virus. The sad part is, there are still way too many Americans that can't seem to find their balls and refuse to bow down to the leftists mandates.
Secretary of Defense Austin to announce mandatory vaccine policy for all active-duty military
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There isn't a single case of disability directly linked to the Anthrax vaccine. The Anthrax vaccine was common in the agriculture industry long before being used in the military. As for the COVID vaccine being "untested", that is simply false. Where are you getting your misinformation?
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SrA Michele Burgman
CSM Darieus ZaGara - I would imagine that they would allow waivers as they do for other things like shaving waivers etc...no?!?!
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CSM Darieus ZaGara
One would hope. The statement is fairly declarative, and does not sound as if it is open to waivers. In any case they would not likely waiver fear. Bottom line is that mandating masks for all, including those vaccinated should suffice while the FDA completes its standard analysis, I have read that they estimate completion by November, December. Why not wait instead of creating more anxiety in a force that already has enough stress.
If we line up tomorrow from a fight then dose during deployment prep. Otherwise they should be patient. Just one mans thoughts. SrA Michele Burgman
If we line up tomorrow from a fight then dose during deployment prep. Otherwise they should be patient. Just one mans thoughts. SrA Michele Burgman
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
CSM Darieus ZaGara - The technology for mRNA has been studied for well over 30 years. This isn't new at all.
What's gonna be your excuse once it is "fully" certified? You and those like you? Then what?
What's gonna be your excuse once it is "fully" certified? You and those like you? Then what?
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MSgt Steve Sweeney
CSM Darieus ZaGara - Thanks for the comment. That may be what they MEAN by "untested", but as a statement of fact it is false. And there may be some immune compromised service members, I don't know, though I would think being immunocompromised would be a disqualifying condition for service. I would be interested to see how many actual servicemembers are immunocompromised - by number, not by name. There are those among the population that are definitely immunocompromised and cannot be vaccinated which makes it even more incumbent on those that that are able to get vaccinated to do so... to reduce to the greatest extent possible the reservoir where the virus can reproduce and mutate.
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How come Covide -19 positive and unvaccinated illegal aliens are being shipped around America if this virus is so bad? I am pro vaccine but strangling Americans with petty rules etc while catering to illegals is ridiculous.
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MSgt Steve Sweeney
LTC David Brown - Your claim was " shipped around America". Where is all the shipping?
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LTC David Brown
MSgt Steve Sweeney -well here you going, untested, unvaccinated. Sent around America. https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/border-patrol-not-testing-migrants-192500361.html Released across US hummm does that fit? But if you are a citizen there is talk of requiring vaccinations to participate in various activities, you need masks bla bla bla.
Border Patrol not testing migrants for COVID before they're released across US
Migrants who illegally come across the U.S.-Mexico border and are apprehended by Border Patrol are not being tested for the coronavirus before being released from custody and allowed to travel across the United States, the Washington Examiner has learned.
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LTC David Brown - I believe this story was part of the bigger story on Fox News showing the buses dropping off the migrants in Louisiana and other towns in the middle of the night, almost as if they were smuggling them in without letting the towns know the immigrants are there. This I believe came about from a Border Patrol Whistleblower(s). What I wonder is if the COVID Spikes are a direct result of introducing the COVID positive migrants into the unsuspecting communities.
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MSgt Steve Sweeney - Yes, on Fox News, they were doing an interview with a Border Patrol Whistle Blower(s), and then showed footage of the buses in various locations in the middle of the night dropping of the immigrants, mainly in small towns.
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Didn't the trump administration fast track the vaccine? He was in office when the vaccine was being given and when the lockdowns and mask mandates took place. What about those that are asymptomatic? By your reasoning, they should stay home if they are sick, but if they are asymptomatic, they don't know they are sick, thus exposing the general population to the deadly virus. As far as the flu, that you mentioned, well, there were no shortage of news articles that indicated an incredibly mild flu season due to everyone staying home, masking up, and taking better hygiene precautions. You mentioned that dems quietly pushed through a bill that grants immunity to the drug companies providing the vaccine, however, I don't see you express any ire at the repubs that voted on said bill. Unless you, personally, are an expert in the field of infectious diseases, I'll continue to listen to the medical experts and scientists.
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SrA Michele Burgman It's not about non-trumpy, there's a line between non-trumpy and those who hate trumpy. In the eyes of the trumpy those who didn't vote for trumpy are anti-trumpy. Those who are anti trumpy consider those who don't vote for trumly or their person as the same as a trumpy. I didn't vote or like trumpy in elections but because of I didn't vote for trumpy, kiliary or byedon I'd be considered a anti to both groups. Many who didn't vote for either like me just carried out there lives like nothing happened during both elections . But those who were engaged that trumpy won hit the streets and burnt down parts of schools or lit things on fire in anger. So I'd take it you were just anti I Hate both screw you but I vote for who I think is better of the two.
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SrA Michele Burgman And nothing wrong with that, Unfortunately politics are now similar to sports. Everyone loves there party/team and will only accept it they win. No more comprises like we could the past. It's either your with us or against us mentality.
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LCDR Glen Palo
SFC Randy Hellenbrand - Or those that received their medical degrees from the Facebook School of Medicine.
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