Posted on Jul 19, 2021
Arizona Senate President: State's 11 Electors Cannot Be Recalled After Maricopa Audit
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If the audit is legit, why is GOP trying to keep documents about auditors and their actions under wraps?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2021/07/15/arizonas-bizarre-election-audit-likely-cant-keep-documents-secret-judge-rules/?sh=4b63a0e32d1c
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2021/07/15/arizonas-bizarre-election-audit-likely-cant-keep-documents-secret-judge-rules/?sh=4b63a0e32d1c
Arizona's Bizarre Election Audit Likely Can't Keep Documents Secret, Judge Rules
Local reporters, watchdog groups and Democratic lawmakers are demanding more information about the finances and practices of an election audit in Arizona’s largest county.
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PO1 H Gene Lawrence
Good question. I don’t care which side of the isle, the American voter deserves the unblemished truth. To have integrity in our government, unless a rare circumstance for the Nations security against an enemy, we deserve to know the full truth.
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Patricia Overmeyer
LTC Eugene Chu: Well if it's also legit, why aren't they looking at the down ballot elected officials as well? The down ballot Republican officials won their races, but that isn't being looked at for "fraud" for some reason. Meh.
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Correct, no fraud that would amount to a hill of beans. Election officials across the state found 182 potentially fraudulent votes out of over 3.1 million votes cast. Of those, only 4 were referred for prosecution (2 Republican, 2 Democrat). The rest appear to be regular screw ups by voters without any intention of fraud.
As to those 74,000+ ballots that CyberNinjas claims he can't find records for early voting? He doesn't understand the data that he is looking at. If he had read both the SoS voting procedures manual, as well as Maricopa County voting procedures manual, he would have understood what he was looking at. Maricopa County stopped counting the mail-in ballots which were sent out after October 23rd, the last day to request a mail-in ballot. Thus the EV33 list was no longer updated. However, there is another list for EV which are done in person at EV polling places. That list is updated daily, which ta-da! there are the 74,000+ ballots. CyberNinjas is making up stupid claims because they don't know what they are doing.
There was their claim that there were ballots that were not on the official "ballot" paper, thus those had to be fraudulent. No dumbass, those are ballots from AZ voters who happen to be overseas (i.e. military, DoD contractors, embassy workers, businessmen/women running overseas subsidiaries, heatbirds in Mexico, etc.). They don't get an "official paper ballot". Instead they print out their own, mark it and send it back in. Those ballots are then scanned, an official ballot is marked to run through the machine, and then the two ballots are stapled together and put in a separate batch. These are kept separate from the other ballots as required under the voting procedural manual. However, CyberNinjas knows that these were "suspect" ballots because of the paper.
And why is the focus only on the Presidential and US Senate seat instead of all the down ballot elected officials? There were several Republican elected officials down ballot who won their races. So where is the "fraud" in those races? Why isn't there a huge question about the "fraud" for those races?
As to those 74,000+ ballots that CyberNinjas claims he can't find records for early voting? He doesn't understand the data that he is looking at. If he had read both the SoS voting procedures manual, as well as Maricopa County voting procedures manual, he would have understood what he was looking at. Maricopa County stopped counting the mail-in ballots which were sent out after October 23rd, the last day to request a mail-in ballot. Thus the EV33 list was no longer updated. However, there is another list for EV which are done in person at EV polling places. That list is updated daily, which ta-da! there are the 74,000+ ballots. CyberNinjas is making up stupid claims because they don't know what they are doing.
There was their claim that there were ballots that were not on the official "ballot" paper, thus those had to be fraudulent. No dumbass, those are ballots from AZ voters who happen to be overseas (i.e. military, DoD contractors, embassy workers, businessmen/women running overseas subsidiaries, heatbirds in Mexico, etc.). They don't get an "official paper ballot". Instead they print out their own, mark it and send it back in. Those ballots are then scanned, an official ballot is marked to run through the machine, and then the two ballots are stapled together and put in a separate batch. These are kept separate from the other ballots as required under the voting procedural manual. However, CyberNinjas knows that these were "suspect" ballots because of the paper.
And why is the focus only on the Presidential and US Senate seat instead of all the down ballot elected officials? There were several Republican elected officials down ballot who won their races. So where is the "fraud" in those races? Why isn't there a huge question about the "fraud" for those races?
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PO1 H Gene Lawrence
So you’re saying if the fraud is small, it is alright? For me, no fraud is tolerable!
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Patricia Overmeyer
PO1 H Gene Lawrence - Out of 3.1 million votes you would have the entire election thrown out and/or awarded to the losing side for what amounts to .00000587% of the vote? That amount of fraud is so infinitesimal it had no bearing whatsoever on the results of the election. And it certainly doesn't warrant spending millions of dollars on some crackpot company that has never conducted an election audit to prove "massive fraud" when they don't know their ass from their heads.
Yes, let's all go screaming with our hair on fire and our asses catching about "massive fraud" and the "election was stolen" over .00000587% of fraud that doesn't amount to a hill of beans in the outcome. BTW, these suspicious votes were already known to the state Senate before they went off half-cocked to find this "massive fraud".
Yes, let's all go screaming with our hair on fire and our asses catching about "massive fraud" and the "election was stolen" over .00000587% of fraud that doesn't amount to a hill of beans in the outcome. BTW, these suspicious votes were already known to the state Senate before they went off half-cocked to find this "massive fraud".
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PO1 H Gene Lawrence
Patricia Overmeyer - if you are responding to my comment, I would suggest that you take a calming medication.
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