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SSG Edward Tilton
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The Army refused to allow me to marry before I was21 without parental permission, they allowed nothing for my wife or child. I supported the family on the economy on $60 a month. I wound up re-enlisting and turning 21. My wife and son came to America but I was sent to Vietnam. No one took care of them and there was no base nearby. It took me 25 years to win my retirement but now we use it for whatever it is worth.
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SFC Randy Hellenbrand
SFC Randy Hellenbrand
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My dad was in Korea and was on the Yalu River. He made E-8 in 2 years and got to deal with a lot of what you talked about. He told me about the marriage problems. It was a mess for a long-long time. I hope you and your wife are still going strong.
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SSG Edward Tilton
SSG Edward Tilton
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SFC Randy Hellenbrand - the Yalu River is the Border between North Korea and China. If he was there, he wasn’t there long
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SFC Randy Hellenbrand
SFC Randy Hellenbrand
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SSG Edward Tilton - Good thing he wasn't. I wouldn't be here.
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SSG Edward Tilton
SSG Edward Tilton
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The Imjim runs into the Han River on today’s DMZ. MacLane Tilton was there with the Marines in 1871
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PO3 Aaron Hassay
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Elspeth Cameron Ritchie
Christopher H. Warner • Robert N. McLay Editors
Psychiatrists in Combat
Mental Health Clinicians’ Experiences in the War Zone
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PO3 Aaron Hassay
PO3 Aaron Hassay
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What I find interesting is that these reports never discuss a Vietnam Combat Veterans children and the lack of care. If the soldier was not welcomed and cared for upon return, then what about their kids?

I was one.

Lastly, look at the Total Force Doctrine that replaced the Draft. The Total Force created a new Reserve 8 year obligation enlistment. Basically have a bunch of young men and women go to bootcamp and for the next 8 years, obligated to be ready for recall. There was no idea the actual stress for the monthly training and requirements and stress with this scenario status.

What if a Vietnam Combat Veterans son joined the reserve program to become an officer as fast as possible by 22 to be a big guy and got injured in some whacky training before he was 22.

No LOD in service. The young guy may just fall out of society.

The reserve was now the returing Vietnam Service Member not welcomed home or appreciated.

You go to the VA even with an HOnorable Discharge from this enlistment package and are told you do not qualify for anything as a veteran.

Imagine you are a returning Vietnam service MEmber and go to to the VA and are told directly you do not qualify for anything because of your Vietnam Service.
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PO3 Aaron Hassay
PO3 Aaron Hassay
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PO3 Aaron Hassay

The 1990s were the forgotten years of the military downsizing when you join in a reserve enlistment that had been created not to qualify for veteran status for veteran care, unless you got special orders over those 8 years, of which you were not at all in charge of.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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The biggest problem with this process is a lack of standards and expectations. The US military uses the principles of war to fight wars, but what principles do we follow to help SMs who need mental health help?

I think this condition is stupid. Units have Mission Essential Task Lists (METL) they have to track and report on. METL are the core tasks that a unit must be able to accomplish to be a viable unit. I will make up METL for a tank unit:

- Conduct movement to contact.
- Defend.
- Offense.
- Maneuver.
- Maintenance.
- Resupply.

What is the METL for behavioral health for the soldiers, units, mental health, and the army?
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PO3 Aaron Hassay
PO3 Aaron Hassay
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I have had to deal with this in my va and bcnr battle. Basically you have 2 sets of documents. One shows your evals. You pass them all. But one thing is missing. Your medical records. In the other that is never referenced in the evaluation you see medical issues spine musculoskeletal and psych developing and no medical care being rendered.

But as long as you are passing evals you are fit for duty.

You as the SM may not even realize what is in your medical record.

You are to stressed and focused on your operational and occupational standards

I believe a Navy Guided Missle Frigate and a Army Tank would have similar stress.

You may want to investigate DOD Term COSC and COSR

The Navy has a very good COSC Command.

It I believe is newer command created in 2008 by Captain Hammer.


When you join you do not make a contract that you can never have a medical issue.

It is almost expected you will have a stress response
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PO3 Aaron Hassay
PO3 Aaron Hassay
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MAJ Ken Landgren
MAJ Ken Landgren
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PO3 Aaron Hassay - I am going to boil down the concept of taking care of PTSD soldiers from the army perspective. I will list the phases soldiers with PTSD experience:

- What happens when a soldier gets PTSD on a deployment or due to trauma?
- We need to screen returning soldiers better for PTSD.
- They must be diagnosed properly.
- Is a WTU available for the soldiers?
- How do unit leaders approach the PTSD problem? This varies tremendously by units.
- How do the units treat and support the soldiers? Some units do not support the soldiers.
- Why do we not have a comprehensive treatment plan from start to medical discharge?
- Do all the mental health professionals really understand how to heal soldiers?
- In worst cases are inpatient facilities available?
- If a soldier with PTSD gets a DUI should the soldier be kicked out or medically chaptered?
- There really are no resources for the spouses.

These are just some of things we need to address.
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