Posted on Jun 15, 2021
The Violent Arrest Of A Woman With Dementia Highlights The Lack Of Police Training
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So, so many bad apples. They say a single bad apple spoils the barrel.
Right now the police agencies across the country are facing upheaval, the type that comes with a reckoning.
Police perform an important function in our society but they can only be effective when they are held to high standards and have accountability. Our writing a blank check in the past, and holding them to low standards in terms of public and legal accountability has hurt them and we have to stop it. We all know this from the military as well, a command climate of high accountability and standards leads to better results, a command climate of low standards and accountability the opposite. Just as with a military unit, there is a period of upheaval when a new commander comes in and starts holding a unit to high standards when that had previously not been the case. We can expect this to play out in departments across the nation.
The police need to be held in high regard AND to high standards.
So, so many bad apples. They say a single bad apple spoils the barrel.
Right now the police agencies across the country are facing upheaval, the type that comes with a reckoning.
Police perform an important function in our society but they can only be effective when they are held to high standards and have accountability. Our writing a blank check in the past, and holding them to low standards in terms of public and legal accountability has hurt them and we have to stop it. We all know this from the military as well, a command climate of high accountability and standards leads to better results, a command climate of low standards and accountability the opposite. Just as with a military unit, there is a period of upheaval when a new commander comes in and starts holding a unit to high standards when that had previously not been the case. We can expect this to play out in departments across the nation.
The police need to be held in high regard AND to high standards.
The Violent Arrest Of A Woman With Dementia Highlights The Lack Of Police Training
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Let the bad ones walk and keep the good cops who really want to follow the law just as they expect civilians to. Keep the good cops who will have the intestinal fortitude to stop and/or report the bad cops.
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As things such as qualified immunity and leadership that throws officers under the bus increase this will get worse. The good cops have other options, they will leave for other states or retire. Many young officers will decide to take another path, maybe the fire department or maybe something completely different. This will leave those who want to be a cop because of the "power of the badge". These are the bad apples which the many good apples who have now left kept in check. Soon the only answer will be a federal level department.
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SPC Kevin Ford
MSG Joseph Cristofaro - All we need to do is change the standard to a reasonable person rule (like it is for the rest of us) and suddenly both interests can be protected. Amazing!
TSgt Chuck Mankin
Most people who want organizations held to low standards of conduct and responsibility rarely care that much about the health of those organizations, only making things easier for themselves. Those who want the organizations held to high standards of conduct are normally the ones that care enough about them to go through the pain of change. Yes there will be some pain, as there is in any organization that has been held to low standards for a long time and yes while that change is occuring there will be churn but the organizations will come out stronger as a result.
I have a friend who was a priest in the Boston Archdiocese when the child abuse scandal was going on. He was a "good priest" but thought about leaving too. Not because the Archdiocese was finally being held accountable, but because of the shame of being associated with an organization that held itself to such low standards to allow that to happen systematically. That makes me suspect some of the "good officers" are leaving, not because of being held accountable (if that's the reason they are leaving they are not "good officers") but because their conscience will no longer allow them to be associated with such an organization.
TSgt Chuck Mankin
Most people who want organizations held to low standards of conduct and responsibility rarely care that much about the health of those organizations, only making things easier for themselves. Those who want the organizations held to high standards of conduct are normally the ones that care enough about them to go through the pain of change. Yes there will be some pain, as there is in any organization that has been held to low standards for a long time and yes while that change is occuring there will be churn but the organizations will come out stronger as a result.
I have a friend who was a priest in the Boston Archdiocese when the child abuse scandal was going on. He was a "good priest" but thought about leaving too. Not because the Archdiocese was finally being held accountable, but because of the shame of being associated with an organization that held itself to such low standards to allow that to happen systematically. That makes me suspect some of the "good officers" are leaving, not because of being held accountable (if that's the reason they are leaving they are not "good officers") but because their conscience will no longer allow them to be associated with such an organization.
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TSgt Chuck Mankin
None of the "reform" is increasing the standards. Qualified immunity doesn't give the cop a free pass. Just like the good samaritan act doesn't give an EMT a free pass. If you act outside of the scope of your duties you are still libel. Every single state has extensive training standards to become a police officer and to maintain that certification. PA Currently requires a minimum of 919 hours of initial training in a wide range of subjects to be a cop. This includes an exam. Plus all officers must complete 12 hours of state required training each year. This is in addition to qualifying with firearms and other equipment twice a year. It is not a lack of training it's a lack of respect from the thugs that's the issue here!
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