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I am already anticipatig a nice dose of some confusion. I was engaged at 19. I thought I had the world at my command ready for it all, the best possible Navy Service Member ever to live, going to be Admiral Boorda go from the lowest low to the highest Hi.
Somehow I got injured confused to the point my Navy Army Transfer was medically disqualfied at MEPS in 1998. A young guy will fight.
A love song it makes me remember.
She left and I never got to share with her what I was experiencing.
Imagine some 20 years later you find this written about the commands and units and enlistment
COme on you have to have a sense of humor right?
I can guarantee you personally don't want to be in a command at 18, that you later find multiple reports, stating things like this,
“Admittingly, there are some potential problems involved in the 80/20 concept”
“systemic weakness in training and administration.”
“operating contrary to established Navy
principles of leadership, command, chain of command, teamwork,
completed staff work, and career incentives.”
Would this explain your ill fated Navy Army Transfer, at 22? Should not MEPS look into what command you were attempting to transfer from?
((REPORT 1))
Naval War College
Newport R.I.
TELL THE TRUTH! CAN THE OPERATIONAL COMMANDER RELY ON THE ADVERTISED CAPABILITIES OF THE NAVAL RESERVE FORCE”S SURFACE ASSETS?
Conclusion
“I maintain based on 27 months in command of one, that the NRF FFGs are not, and should not be expected to be, fully combat ready for immediate deployment into a high threat area, under the present “system”. Our manning and employment policies are detrimental to their wartime combat readiness. They will never be equal to their active sister ships immediately upon mobilization because the selected reservists (SELRES) portion of the crew receives neither the quantity nor the quality of training received by their active duty counterparts, neither as port of the ‘team” nore as individual crewmembers.”
((Report (1) review What might happen to a 18 year old SELRES assigned to NRF FFG experiencing? Might this 18 year old SELRES experience shock and awe and overwhelming emotions and triggered shock and adrenaline rushes in first time exposures to all that a FFG can throw at you? Might he get deralized when he realizes that he can not keep up and adapt before he is sent home for a few weeks to recover before he has to return to do it all over again? ))
(Report 2)
https://www.public.navy.mil/surfor/Documents/3502_1D_Change_1.pdf
COMNAVSURFORINST 3502.1e
CHAPTER 1
SURFACE FORCE TRAINING
SECTION 5
1501. General.
2. Training for individual reservists must be sequenced, well
orchestrated, well defined, and must account for inherent problems of discontinuity. Close coordination and liaison between the NRF ship CO/XO/Training Officer and the reserve unit SELRES Coordinator and Administrator (reserve unit CO/XO) are key to a successful reserve training program. Remember that these reservists are members of your command and most of these individuals have previous active duty experience.
((Report (2) Question. “MOST” What if you are not “Most” on the ship? Can you imagine any leader, coach, or teacher putting a program together, this training, without even contemplating mishap injury or illness, by assigning a bright eyed logical young man, ready for the world in his teens to experience high school varsity sports, or bootcamp, or college, or as crew to a Navy combat ship with the following parameters ``Training for individual....must be sequenced, well
orchestrated, well defined, and must account for inherent problems of discontinuity.”? You at 18 had no active duty experience, and over 5 years assigned, blanked out, with a sea service ribbon, amazingly in shock, at the VA, would not even get enough active duty time for VA recognition as a veteran for veteran purposes. )
((Report 3))
<<This Reports broadly explains both the beginning and end of the NRF and the SAM Enlistment.>>
https://www.ida.org/-/media/feature/publications/e/ev/evolution-of-the-militarys-current-activereserve-force-mix/d-4968.ashx
Evolution of the Military's Current Active-Reserve Force Mix
U.S. Navy (USN) The Navy Reserve has evolved over time from a semi-autonomous strategic reserve in terms of platforms and trained individuals to what is today a strategic and operational reserve that is a mix of individuals and unit types that either complement or mirror elements of the AC. In the former case, the RC provides “skills and expertise to complete the Total Force inventory of capabilities”1 and in the latter case, the RC provides “skills and expertise that match the AC to offer greater capacity at lower carrying cost.”2 This evolution can be traced back to the aftermath of WW II, when the Navy had a large number of ships and aircraft and trained the Navy Reserve to staff them in anticipation of a need for a large force to wage war with the Warsaw Pact. By the end of the Cold War, this scenario had become obsolete. In the case of ships, as the size of the fleet declined, the Navy moved to a policy of fully manning all its ships so that these ships would not require RC augmentation in the event of war. In addition, the problems of maintaining ships in standby status with part-time personnel and the impracticality of rotating part-time personnel to deployed units made employing reservists, other than full-time support (FTS) personnel, to operate ships unworkable, and the Navy Reserve Fleet (NRF) disappeared.
To meet the demands for experienced petty officers as the fleet expanded toward its goal of 600 ships, the Navy relied, in part, on voluntary recalls designed to draw prior-service sailors into the Reserves and then back onto active duty. To backfill the petty officers who went to the fleet, the Navy initiated the Sea/Air Mariner (SAM) program to attract new recruits to the Naval Reserve by offering tuition assistance. However, this program proved unsuccessful because its benefits and 6-year obligation compared unfavorably with Army and Air Force programs.66
<<Here is the Military Law USCode for the SAM Enlistment, a 8 Yr MSO>>
10 USC 511(d)
“The Sea and Air Mariner (SAM) Program. The SAM program is a non-prior service mandatory drilling program. Personnel who enlist in the SAM Program, under authority of 10 USC 511(d) incur a 8 yr MSO Military Service Obligation. They must drill continuously in the selective reserve (SELRES) for 6 of the 8 years. The mandatory continuous 6 year period begins the day the member reports for recruit training.
Somehow I got injured confused to the point my Navy Army Transfer was medically disqualfied at MEPS in 1998. A young guy will fight.
A love song it makes me remember.
She left and I never got to share with her what I was experiencing.
Imagine some 20 years later you find this written about the commands and units and enlistment
COme on you have to have a sense of humor right?
I can guarantee you personally don't want to be in a command at 18, that you later find multiple reports, stating things like this,
“Admittingly, there are some potential problems involved in the 80/20 concept”
“systemic weakness in training and administration.”
“operating contrary to established Navy
principles of leadership, command, chain of command, teamwork,
completed staff work, and career incentives.”
Would this explain your ill fated Navy Army Transfer, at 22? Should not MEPS look into what command you were attempting to transfer from?
((REPORT 1))
Naval War College
Newport R.I.
TELL THE TRUTH! CAN THE OPERATIONAL COMMANDER RELY ON THE ADVERTISED CAPABILITIES OF THE NAVAL RESERVE FORCE”S SURFACE ASSETS?
Conclusion
“I maintain based on 27 months in command of one, that the NRF FFGs are not, and should not be expected to be, fully combat ready for immediate deployment into a high threat area, under the present “system”. Our manning and employment policies are detrimental to their wartime combat readiness. They will never be equal to their active sister ships immediately upon mobilization because the selected reservists (SELRES) portion of the crew receives neither the quantity nor the quality of training received by their active duty counterparts, neither as port of the ‘team” nore as individual crewmembers.”
((Report (1) review What might happen to a 18 year old SELRES assigned to NRF FFG experiencing? Might this 18 year old SELRES experience shock and awe and overwhelming emotions and triggered shock and adrenaline rushes in first time exposures to all that a FFG can throw at you? Might he get deralized when he realizes that he can not keep up and adapt before he is sent home for a few weeks to recover before he has to return to do it all over again? ))
(Report 2)
https://www.public.navy.mil/surfor/Documents/3502_1D_Change_1.pdf
COMNAVSURFORINST 3502.1e
CHAPTER 1
SURFACE FORCE TRAINING
SECTION 5
1501. General.
2. Training for individual reservists must be sequenced, well
orchestrated, well defined, and must account for inherent problems of discontinuity. Close coordination and liaison between the NRF ship CO/XO/Training Officer and the reserve unit SELRES Coordinator and Administrator (reserve unit CO/XO) are key to a successful reserve training program. Remember that these reservists are members of your command and most of these individuals have previous active duty experience.
((Report (2) Question. “MOST” What if you are not “Most” on the ship? Can you imagine any leader, coach, or teacher putting a program together, this training, without even contemplating mishap injury or illness, by assigning a bright eyed logical young man, ready for the world in his teens to experience high school varsity sports, or bootcamp, or college, or as crew to a Navy combat ship with the following parameters ``Training for individual....must be sequenced, well
orchestrated, well defined, and must account for inherent problems of discontinuity.”? You at 18 had no active duty experience, and over 5 years assigned, blanked out, with a sea service ribbon, amazingly in shock, at the VA, would not even get enough active duty time for VA recognition as a veteran for veteran purposes. )
((Report 3))
<<This Reports broadly explains both the beginning and end of the NRF and the SAM Enlistment.>>
https://www.ida.org/-/media/feature/publications/e/ev/evolution-of-the-militarys-current-activereserve-force-mix/d-4968.ashx
Evolution of the Military's Current Active-Reserve Force Mix
U.S. Navy (USN) The Navy Reserve has evolved over time from a semi-autonomous strategic reserve in terms of platforms and trained individuals to what is today a strategic and operational reserve that is a mix of individuals and unit types that either complement or mirror elements of the AC. In the former case, the RC provides “skills and expertise to complete the Total Force inventory of capabilities”1 and in the latter case, the RC provides “skills and expertise that match the AC to offer greater capacity at lower carrying cost.”2 This evolution can be traced back to the aftermath of WW II, when the Navy had a large number of ships and aircraft and trained the Navy Reserve to staff them in anticipation of a need for a large force to wage war with the Warsaw Pact. By the end of the Cold War, this scenario had become obsolete. In the case of ships, as the size of the fleet declined, the Navy moved to a policy of fully manning all its ships so that these ships would not require RC augmentation in the event of war. In addition, the problems of maintaining ships in standby status with part-time personnel and the impracticality of rotating part-time personnel to deployed units made employing reservists, other than full-time support (FTS) personnel, to operate ships unworkable, and the Navy Reserve Fleet (NRF) disappeared.
To meet the demands for experienced petty officers as the fleet expanded toward its goal of 600 ships, the Navy relied, in part, on voluntary recalls designed to draw prior-service sailors into the Reserves and then back onto active duty. To backfill the petty officers who went to the fleet, the Navy initiated the Sea/Air Mariner (SAM) program to attract new recruits to the Naval Reserve by offering tuition assistance. However, this program proved unsuccessful because its benefits and 6-year obligation compared unfavorably with Army and Air Force programs.66
<<Here is the Military Law USCode for the SAM Enlistment, a 8 Yr MSO>>
10 USC 511(d)
“The Sea and Air Mariner (SAM) Program. The SAM program is a non-prior service mandatory drilling program. Personnel who enlist in the SAM Program, under authority of 10 USC 511(d) incur a 8 yr MSO Military Service Obligation. They must drill continuously in the selective reserve (SELRES) for 6 of the 8 years. The mandatory continuous 6 year period begins the day the member reports for recruit training.
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