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People want to believe the worst kind of nonsense.
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Cpl Tou Lee Yang
Cpl Tou Lee Yang
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SGT (Join to see) - These Trump supporters are the epitome of what I would call a fucking moron.
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MCPO Roger Collins
MCPO Roger Collins
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SGT (Join to see) Never heard the first item. Second item, Mark Penn started that, he was an operative for Hillary when she ran against Obama. Never heard of the McCain allegation you note. Do we want to bring up Clinton and Obama with regard to military? Yes, Biden’s son walked through walk strait to Ukraine and China, when he wasn’t doping. Got more?
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
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MCPO Roger Collins - You never heard about Pizzagate? I heard about all those things mentioned.

"Now, according to fact-checkers and contemporary media reports, questions about Mr Obama's birthplace began circulating among disgruntled Clinton supporters in the last months of her ill-fated campaign against the then-Senator Obama in 2008.

It was desperate times in the Clinton camp, and the candidate did not always acquit herself well, such as when she said that Mr Obama was not a Muslim "as far as I know". But there is no evidence of ties between her and her campaign staff and the Obama birthplace allegations."

By 2011 - Trump threw his hat in on the birther conspiracy and pushed it more than most.

There is a conspiracy that while McCain was a POW he gave up military information to get medical treatment or special treatment.
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Cpl Tou Lee Yang
Cpl Tou Lee Yang
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff - I know Roger heard of it, he's just playing ignorant. Or maybe that is true that's why he support trump.
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I believe most of the people who still support Trump after the last six months do it because their against the status quo an are tired of your average run of the mill politician. They most likely want to end globalism an show off the us from the rest of the world. Maybe the supporters feel like he's placing their conservative values an traditions at heart. Maybe they believe after the pandemic ends Trump will somehow be able to convince cooperations let bring our companies back home an produce from within. Maybe they think he's doing a good job with immigration an border safety? He did built a bit of the wall in parts of the border that had no fencing but mostly replaced existing fencing which in itself is retroactive an counter productive to say the least. Maybe they support him to get a reaction out of the progressives an leftists? Who knows. I'm not a trumper by any means but stating what they may think or believe based off my own opinions. We however know he isn't doing what's best for us at the global level an making us a laughing stock of the world.
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Cpl Tou Lee Yang
Cpl Tou Lee Yang
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We're all in the military and at one point or another we've been trained for war fighting, how you going to respect a NCO who leads from the rear? My philosophy is and has been, lead by example. If he wants corporation to bring back jobs from overseas, he needs to lead by example and move all his "Signature" line back to the states. Otherwise, he's just a pile of shit who's own initiative is to enriched himself while screwing everyone else.
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Cpl Tou Lee Yang As the saying goes one should practice what they preach. I'm not referring to you, I'm commenting on him bring his stuff back. But in a sense bringing cooperations back on bring the jobs back it just brings in automation to keep the cost of goods an services where it is now. Majority of those cooperations leaving China aren't coming back, They're going to to to Vietnam,Laos,Cambodia,Thailand, India or lastly Mexic. It would be easier making things across land connected border vs ocean container travel.
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Col Joseph Lenertz
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I cannot, have never, and will not defend Trump's bloviating tweets or outlandish claims. I admit I care more about results than intentions, but neither do I support the "ends justifies the means" argument. I believe President Obama had good intentions, and he was an articulate and smooth class act, particularly in comparison with Trump. But I disagreed with his policies and the results of those policies, and believe they harmed America. The Trump administation's policy results have been better for America, in my opinion. And I think we can have a discussion and argue over both sets of policies without either of us calling the other stupid or racist. We have served. We have sworn an oath to the constitution. We have much in common...we can find common ground.
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Col Joseph Lenertz
Col Joseph Lenertz
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff - Well, if you believe economists...there are 4 primary metrics used to measure the strength of a nation's economy: GDP growth rate, Inflation, Unemployment Rate, and Trade balance. We can review each of these before and after Trump took office. And please don't push the white supremicist idea with me if you'd like to have a mutually respectful conversation.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
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Col Joseph Lenertz - "White supremacist idea?" He has emboldened them and said they're among "very fine people." But he calls people of color thugs, monkeys, terrorists, etc.

When a white person shoots up somewhere, it's mental health. When it's a person of color, it's a terrorist.

Yet again waiting on someone to show how America is better with Trump.
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Cpl Tou Lee Yang
Cpl Tou Lee Yang
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You surmised that Trump has better policy than Obama? So you believe giving Saudi Arabia access to nuclear technology is a sound decision? I mean most of their citizens has been attacking our country, 9/11 is just a small example of that. And you surmised that nothing evil or destructive would come out of that?
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Maj John Bell
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Cpl Tou Lee Yang - What is your definition of "most?" The population of Saudi Arabia is 33 million. If 16.5million+ Saudis are attacking us, they aren't very effective.
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