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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
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Yes, unlike politicians and admirals in DC he knew what his crew needed. It cost him his command but he did the right thing. And for the naysayers out there remember the Navy doesn't give command of aircraft carriers to irresponsible people!
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MAJ Ken Landgren
MAJ Ken Landgren
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen - Right or wrong, the skipper knew how to shape events to take care of his sailors. I don't agree that he might have facilitated the leaking of his memo, but he is the skipper of the ship and the crew. He did what he felt was correct and he took the sword. For that, I will respect him as a leader.
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GySgt Gary Cordeiro
GySgt Gary Cordeiro
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MAJ Ken Landgren
My favorite quote from Sun Tuz, “ Treat your men as you would your own beloved sons. And they will follow you in the deepest valley “.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
MAJ Ken Landgren
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GySgt Gary Cordeiro - I agree. If the leader loves his soldiers and they love him back, they will go to hell and back with the leader.
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Maj John Bell
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He was right to sound the alarm and wrong to do so publicly.
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Maj John Bell
Maj John Bell
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MSgt Steve Sweeney - There is a difference between being "removed from command" and "being relieved for cause." I don't know that these journalists and editors know that. I would like to know the official characterization of the action taken against Captain Crozier. Being removed from command can, and sometimes is reversed after an inquiry. Sometimes that inquiry is formal. Sometimes it is informal. That said, I believe there is enough blood on the deck that Captain Crozier's removal is permanent and he is at his terminal rank.

The distribution list for a one time communication is, or at least was, in my experience determined by the originator. I'll engage in some speculation here... Captain Crozier was trying to force somebody's hand. And that somebody is pissed.

I have no problem with a request mast. I have no problem with telling the CO I'm going to his CO and if he wants to stop me better get some burly Marines to do it, quick. I have a huge problem when someone is "recruiting" allies outside of the chain of command to force a hand. Even as a "witness on the side lines" I'd never trust Captain Crozier if I had to work with him in the future. If he isn't getting what he wants, as fast as he wants... what is he going to do?
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Maj John Bell
Maj John Bell
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MSgt Steve Sweeney - I had not read the letter. But thanks to you I have. The last time I tried it was hidden behind a pay wall. Sincerely, Thank You.

I have absolutely zero problem with the content of the letter. Even without reading it, I would have bet the farm on that, and given you VERY favorable odds. As I've stated my problem is with the distribution. With a distribution list so large in a highly charged partisan political environment, and a hot potato issue, a leak was an easily foreseeable outcome.
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Maj John Bell - you wrote, “ However SecNav Modly said that in emailing it to 20-30 people he provided the opportunity for it to be leaked.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fired-captain-sent-memo-to-fewer-people-than-former-navy-head-alleged-report/ar-BB12Ke7Z?li=BBnb7Kz

At this point, I wouldn’t remotely be surprised if we eventually find out that it was Modly, himself, that leaked that memo.
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Maj John Bell
Maj John Bell
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SGT (Join to see) - In addition, I've seen an article that make it pretty clear that it was nowhere near 20-30 addressees. It appears that the distribution list was three Admirals who were in the chain of command, and absolutely should have been on the distribution list; plus the skippers of the other ships in the task force. If true, that is most definitely a game changer and would void my initial opinion that Captain Crozier should have been removed from command.
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LTJG Richard Bruce
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Making crew status public has got to stop. Crew readiness is always classified. The Press is telling our adversaries that one of our capital ships is useless. Why stop at this virus? Why don't advertise all the illnesses of all crewmen on all our ships?
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CWO3 Dennis M.
CWO3 Dennis M.
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Amen brother... Exactly... see my other posts above...!
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SGT Retired
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If crew readiness is always classified, someone forgot to tell the Navy. Official public announcements from the Navy included:
March 24, initial outbreak on TR
March 25, sailors evacuated from TR
March 27, TR docked in Guam due to quick spread of virus
March 29, TR crew would be quarantined on board or pier side due to virus.

If this was a secret, the Navy is really bad at secrets.
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LTJG Richard Bruce
LTJG Richard Bruce
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That's why the captain got sacked. Should the USAF make the health status of silo crews public?
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