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More breaking news. Your thoughts on this one - necessary move or dangerous escalation?
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Posted from msn.com
Middle East
Iran
Iraq
Foreign Policy
Posted 5 y ago
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SSgt Ray Stone
SPC David S. Obama supporters including myself have always criticized him for taking out Qhaddfi and other wrong doings. Unlike you MAGA HATS who refuse to admit the constant fuckery of incompetence, morally bankrupt ,anti Americanism his dumpster of an administration displays daily. And that billions comment is a flat out lie and propaganda
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SPC David S.
Fact checked from the Clinton News Network -
"The entire $1.7 billion, given in two separate payments of $400 million and $1.3 billion, was provided in cash. The timing of the first payment corresponded with Iran's release of the American prisoners, which occurred the same day.
While Obama repeatedly said in early August 2016 that the money was not part of a ransom for these Americans, the administration later admitted that the timing of the first installment was used as leverage to get the prisoners released."
As well the lifting of sanctions released anywhere to $50 to $150 billion. Just guessing some of that money went towards killing Americans. Simply knowing that is a possibility and still doing it seems just a bit more un-American.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/iran-backed-kataib-hezbollah-has-long-targeted-u-s-forces [login to see] 8
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/21/politics/trump-twitter-iran-fact-check/index.html
"The entire $1.7 billion, given in two separate payments of $400 million and $1.3 billion, was provided in cash. The timing of the first payment corresponded with Iran's release of the American prisoners, which occurred the same day.
While Obama repeatedly said in early August 2016 that the money was not part of a ransom for these Americans, the administration later admitted that the timing of the first installment was used as leverage to get the prisoners released."
As well the lifting of sanctions released anywhere to $50 to $150 billion. Just guessing some of that money went towards killing Americans. Simply knowing that is a possibility and still doing it seems just a bit more un-American.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/iran-backed-kataib-hezbollah-has-long-targeted-u-s-forces [login to see] 8
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/21/politics/trump-twitter-iran-fact-check/index.html
Iran-Backed Kataib Hezbollah Has Long Targeted U.S. Forces
The Iranian-backed Iraqi militia targeted by U.S. airstrikes was among the Shiite groups that joined in fighting Islamic State. But it has also attacked American forces and helped stoke sectarian strife in the region.
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During the Clinton and Obama Administrations, we found that appeasement, rather than action led to further aggression. The Iranians are in the process of becoming a Nuclear Power. Strategically, they poke the beehive to show our enemies that we are a paper tiger that can be beat. How many of our SMs and civilians must be killed in order to respond? In answer to your basis question, it’s time to end their continuous provocation, before they become another N. Korea.
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SPC David S.
While most are talking about Suleimani others in the convey may have contributed to green lighting of the strike.
While many are claiming that the US is the aggressor escalating matters, others that were killed in the strike points to a preexisting escalation in the Iran/Iraqi proxy war against the US by Iran and Iraq.
Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis who was riding in convoy was responsible for the bombing of the US Embassy in Kuwait in 1983 (French Embassy also targeted). Luckily not all went off as planned as it would have leveled our Embassy.
More currently he was responsible for attacks carried out by the Kata’ib Hezbollah militia which he founded and which is listed by the US as a terrorist group. Kata’ib Hezbollah is regarded as a hardline pro-Iranian faction blamed for targeting US troops, with Muhandis himself accused of running “weapons smuggling networks, participating in attacks of western embassies and attempted assassinations in the region”.
Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis breaking bread with Suleimani especially after the recent embassy attack in Iraq I would say represents a clear and present danger to the US and it allies in the region. Just guessing there is more to this than what is being reported as the US would need legal grounds for such a high profile strike.
As well, Soleimani's son-in-law, a member of the Lebanese Hezbollah (a listed FTO by States Department) was killed.
Yes the ups the ante but this is the result in allowing these individuals to fester for decades. In all honesty they should have been derailed long before becoming a state level problem
All I can say is that I hope we are tracking Hezbollah as I feel this would be Iran's method of retaliation. Something right here in the US possibly with support from Hezbollah's base in Cuba.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/03/abu-mahdi-al-muhandis-iraq-iran-militias-suleimani
https://www.thedailybeast.com/ali-kourani-the-hezbollah-sleeper-agent-who-allegedly-ran-black-ops-in-america
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_State_list_of_Foreign_Terrorist_Organizations
While many are claiming that the US is the aggressor escalating matters, others that were killed in the strike points to a preexisting escalation in the Iran/Iraqi proxy war against the US by Iran and Iraq.
Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis who was riding in convoy was responsible for the bombing of the US Embassy in Kuwait in 1983 (French Embassy also targeted). Luckily not all went off as planned as it would have leveled our Embassy.
More currently he was responsible for attacks carried out by the Kata’ib Hezbollah militia which he founded and which is listed by the US as a terrorist group. Kata’ib Hezbollah is regarded as a hardline pro-Iranian faction blamed for targeting US troops, with Muhandis himself accused of running “weapons smuggling networks, participating in attacks of western embassies and attempted assassinations in the region”.
Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis breaking bread with Suleimani especially after the recent embassy attack in Iraq I would say represents a clear and present danger to the US and it allies in the region. Just guessing there is more to this than what is being reported as the US would need legal grounds for such a high profile strike.
As well, Soleimani's son-in-law, a member of the Lebanese Hezbollah (a listed FTO by States Department) was killed.
Yes the ups the ante but this is the result in allowing these individuals to fester for decades. In all honesty they should have been derailed long before becoming a state level problem
All I can say is that I hope we are tracking Hezbollah as I feel this would be Iran's method of retaliation. Something right here in the US possibly with support from Hezbollah's base in Cuba.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/03/abu-mahdi-al-muhandis-iraq-iran-militias-suleimani
https://www.thedailybeast.com/ali-kourani-the-hezbollah-sleeper-agent-who-allegedly-ran-black-ops-in-america
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_State_list_of_Foreign_Terrorist_Organizations
Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis: Iraqi killed in US strike was key militia figure
Man who died alongside Suleimani was important Shia leader in post-Saddam era
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SPC David S.
MAJ Ken Landgren - thanks sir - This may be something to add to the discussion - Hezbollah has been breaching our southern border for years. It's not well reported but more reasoning for my concern about Hezbollah as well a need to secure the border and to go after cartels. More than likely the cell(s) is/are already state side - If I have to bet - multiple car bombings.
I would not be surprised if the CIA was working a cartel in Mexico to thwart Hezbollah's presence in the US.
https://www.judicialwatch.org/corruption-chronicles/mexican-cartels-help-hezbollah-infiltrate-u-s/
https://www.judicialwatch.org/corruption-chronicles/u-s-removed-cuba-from-terrorist-list-after-hezbollah-opened-base-on-island/
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-112hhrg72255/html/CHRG-112hhrg72255.htm
https://www.politico.com/interactives/2017/obama-hezbollah-drug-trafficking-investigation/
I would not be surprised if the CIA was working a cartel in Mexico to thwart Hezbollah's presence in the US.
https://www.judicialwatch.org/corruption-chronicles/mexican-cartels-help-hezbollah-infiltrate-u-s/
https://www.judicialwatch.org/corruption-chronicles/u-s-removed-cuba-from-terrorist-list-after-hezbollah-opened-base-on-island/
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-112hhrg72255/html/CHRG-112hhrg72255.htm
https://www.politico.com/interactives/2017/obama-hezbollah-drug-trafficking-investigation/
Mexican Cartels Help Hezbollah Infiltrate U.S. - Judicial Watch
In a shocking revelation made by a veteran U.S. counterterrorism expert, Hezbollah has infiltrated the Southwest United States by joining forces with Mexican drug cartels that have long operated in the region. Judicial Watch has for years reported on the chilling connection between Islamic extremists and Mexican drug cartels. In fact, as far back as …
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