Posted on Nov 21, 2019
Expert Soldier Badge Test an Unforgiving Wakeup Call for Non-Infantry Troops
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Well...first ... lets go over the emergency exits....now...raise your hand if you know CPR...Good...Thank you... Now... safe spaces are in yellow on your handouts...and don't forget...anyplace is a safe space if you wish it so.... just wish...wish upon a star. Now... I'll need a volunteer to bring juice boxes and a snack each day....
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Not surprising. When I earned my EIB, only about 20% of the Infantrymen tested actually passed. The Expert Soldier Badge is a farce and never should have been created. Same with the CAB. Simple participation awards.
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How are proficiency tests for supporting elements any more or less important than the same for combat arms? Why should combat engagement be seen as a participation trophy for supporting MOSs? Does it rub you wrong that the people that allow you to do the job you do are trying to be equally recognized for their involvement or proficiency? I'd imagine it would be more beneficial for combat arms to promote support service members to train more on basic soldier tasks so it doesn't seem as though combat arms is carrying the team instead of minimalizing efforts to improve.
While combat arms are stateside, their job is to train and be proficient in these soldiering tasks, whereas supporting elements have their support roles to complete on top of soldier training. As a mechanic, our service schedule doesn't stop when we deploy or when we get back.
Trucks don't stop breaking. Making time in the schedule to stay on top of vehicle maintenance AND do training AND stay current on jumps AND fill details is not an easy task. When deployed I've recovered vehicles while under contact and on a separate occasion, was driving a 5,000 gallon bomb across Afghanistan getting ambushed with RPGs and small arms trying to turn me into a candle. I've seen 11b's get their CIBs for less. Just a bit of perspective from the other side. If your opinion is that the CAB and ESB are participation trophies, then by association so are other proficiency and involvement accolades of other specialties.
While combat arms are stateside, their job is to train and be proficient in these soldiering tasks, whereas supporting elements have their support roles to complete on top of soldier training. As a mechanic, our service schedule doesn't stop when we deploy or when we get back.
Trucks don't stop breaking. Making time in the schedule to stay on top of vehicle maintenance AND do training AND stay current on jumps AND fill details is not an easy task. When deployed I've recovered vehicles while under contact and on a separate occasion, was driving a 5,000 gallon bomb across Afghanistan getting ambushed with RPGs and small arms trying to turn me into a candle. I've seen 11b's get their CIBs for less. Just a bit of perspective from the other side. If your opinion is that the CAB and ESB are participation trophies, then by association so are other proficiency and involvement accolades of other specialties.
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The CAB is not a participation award First Sergeant, if that’s true then the CIB is as well. I earned mine. Do you feel the CIB is a participation award? Same criteria except you have to be in an infantry unit etc.
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Sorry, cannot do. Too many white cycle task imposed on my training schedule and not enough time to focus on what really matters: train for war!!!!!!
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