Posted on Oct 23, 2019
Republicans breeze past security protocols, occupy secure impeachment area
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An impeachment inquiry is not a private thing and it was never meant to be. The people are the rightful rulers of the government and we the people need to have our say in this REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC. What is occurring right now in that "secret" chamber is complete partisan bullshyte!
Article I Section II clearly states, "The House of Representatives shall..." that is plural, meaning all members of the house. By excluding the protections even granted to President Clinton in a bipartisan House, all members (the peoples' representatives) had a say in the impeachment proceedings and the President was offered due process, a right guaranteed to all citizens.
WTF are the partisan asshats hiding from the We The People. This "star chamber" bullshyte is just that, bullshyte.
Article I Section II clearly states, "The House of Representatives shall..." that is plural, meaning all members of the house. By excluding the protections even granted to President Clinton in a bipartisan House, all members (the peoples' representatives) had a say in the impeachment proceedings and the President was offered due process, a right guaranteed to all citizens.
WTF are the partisan asshats hiding from the We The People. This "star chamber" bullshyte is just that, bullshyte.
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Cpl (Join to see)
You don't separate them during an impeachment inquiry, you allow cross examination. Since the democrats want to do this behind close doors with non-fact witnesses, the idea of due process is completely thrown out the window. Since you are an "investigator," why don't you look up the resolution passed with a bi-partisan congress for the inquiry into the Clinton impeachment. This is a sham, plain and simple. Hatred is not a reason to impeach a president. You have to have a crime to investigate, you don't investigate to find a crime, it's un-Constitutional.
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Cpl (Join to see)
What kind of precedent is this setting for future presidents? All three impeachment inquiries clinton, nixon and johnson have been open to the public because WE THE PEOPLE are responsible for OUR representatives decisions. THEY work for us and are supposed to take counsel from their constituents and an impeachment is a NATIONAL ordeal.
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MSG Stan Hutchison
Cpl (Join to see) - That is not completely true. The hearings in the House were open, yes. But, there were preceded with closed-door interviews by special prosecutors. Only after the special counsels finished their reports did the House have the open hearings.
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Cpl (Join to see)
You are wrong stan... the BIPARTISAN resolution that passed on 12/19/1998 in the house was passed before the impeachment interviews began and it gave specific protections to bj clinton during the precedings which included DUE PROCESS. There were 11, count them 11, felony charges ranging from perjury to obstruction that sparked the impeachment by Henry Hyde in the JUDICIARY. What is occurring right now in unprecedented. There isn't a single crime that the democrats can fabricate and pen on the President. Hatred is not grounds for impeachment.
Now then, which Constitution did you swear to defend, the one where Article I Section II states, "THE HOUSE OR REPRESENTATIVES SHALL..." Do you see that last word, it's PLURAL, meaning ALL MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE. Why don't you put yourself in the presidents shoes and imagine us trying to impeach you behind closed doors when you know you haven't committed a crime.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/105th-congress/house-resolution/611
1. President Clinton lied under oath in his civil case when he denied a sexual affair, a sexual relationship, or sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky.
2. President Clinton lied under oath to the grand jury about his sexual relationship with Ms. Lewinsky.
3. In his civil deposition, to support his false statement about the sexual relationship, President Clinton also lied under oath about being alone with Ms. Lewinsky and about the many gifts exchanged between Ms. Lewinsky and him.
4. President Clinton lied under oath in his civil deposition about his discussions with Ms. Lewinsky concerning her involvement in the Jones case.
5. During the Jones case, the President obstructed justice and had an understanding with Ms. Lewinsky to jointly conceal the truth about their relationship by concealing gifts subpoenaed by Ms. Jones's attorneys.
6. During the Jones case, the President obstructed justice and had an understanding with Ms. Lewinsky to jointly conceal the truth of their relationship from the judicial process by a scheme that included the following means: (i) Both the President and Ms. Lewinsky understood that they would lie under oath in the Jones case about their sexual relationship; (ii) the President suggested to Ms. Lewinsky that she prepare an affidavit that, for the President's purposes, would memorialize her testimony under oath and could be used to prevent questioning of both of them about their relationship; (iii) Ms. Lewinsky signed and filed the false affidavit; (iv) the President used Ms. Lewinsky's false affidavit at his deposition in an attempt to head off questions about Ms. Lewinsky; and (v) when that failed, the President lied under oath at his civil deposition about the relationship with Ms. Lewinsky.
7. President Clinton endeavored to obstruct justice by helping Ms. Lewinsky obtain a job in New York at a time when she would have been a witness harmful to him were she to tell the truth in the Jones case.
8. President Clinton lied under oath in his civil deposition about his discussions with Vernon Jordan concerning Ms. Lewinsky's involvement in the Jones case.
9. The President improperly tampered with a potential witness by attempting to corruptly influence the testimony of his personal secretary, Betty Currie, in the days after his civil deposition.
10. President Clinton endeavored to obstruct justice during the grand jury investigation by refusing to testify for seven months and lying to senior White House aides with knowledge that they would relay the President's false statements to the grand jury – and did thereby deceive, obstruct, and impede the grand jury.
11. President Clinton abused his constitutional authority by (i) lying to the public and the Congress in January 1998 about his relationship with Ms. Lewinsky; (ii) promising at that time to cooperate fully with the grand jury investigation; (iii) later refusing six invitations to testify voluntarily to the grand jury; (iv) invoking Executive Privilege; (v) lying to the grand jury in August 1998; and (vi) lying again to the public and Congress on August 17, 1998 – all as part of an effort to hinder, impede, and deflect possible inquiry by the Congress of the United States.[8]
Now then, which Constitution did you swear to defend, the one where Article I Section II states, "THE HOUSE OR REPRESENTATIVES SHALL..." Do you see that last word, it's PLURAL, meaning ALL MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE. Why don't you put yourself in the presidents shoes and imagine us trying to impeach you behind closed doors when you know you haven't committed a crime.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/105th-congress/house-resolution/611
1. President Clinton lied under oath in his civil case when he denied a sexual affair, a sexual relationship, or sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky.
2. President Clinton lied under oath to the grand jury about his sexual relationship with Ms. Lewinsky.
3. In his civil deposition, to support his false statement about the sexual relationship, President Clinton also lied under oath about being alone with Ms. Lewinsky and about the many gifts exchanged between Ms. Lewinsky and him.
4. President Clinton lied under oath in his civil deposition about his discussions with Ms. Lewinsky concerning her involvement in the Jones case.
5. During the Jones case, the President obstructed justice and had an understanding with Ms. Lewinsky to jointly conceal the truth about their relationship by concealing gifts subpoenaed by Ms. Jones's attorneys.
6. During the Jones case, the President obstructed justice and had an understanding with Ms. Lewinsky to jointly conceal the truth of their relationship from the judicial process by a scheme that included the following means: (i) Both the President and Ms. Lewinsky understood that they would lie under oath in the Jones case about their sexual relationship; (ii) the President suggested to Ms. Lewinsky that she prepare an affidavit that, for the President's purposes, would memorialize her testimony under oath and could be used to prevent questioning of both of them about their relationship; (iii) Ms. Lewinsky signed and filed the false affidavit; (iv) the President used Ms. Lewinsky's false affidavit at his deposition in an attempt to head off questions about Ms. Lewinsky; and (v) when that failed, the President lied under oath at his civil deposition about the relationship with Ms. Lewinsky.
7. President Clinton endeavored to obstruct justice by helping Ms. Lewinsky obtain a job in New York at a time when she would have been a witness harmful to him were she to tell the truth in the Jones case.
8. President Clinton lied under oath in his civil deposition about his discussions with Vernon Jordan concerning Ms. Lewinsky's involvement in the Jones case.
9. The President improperly tampered with a potential witness by attempting to corruptly influence the testimony of his personal secretary, Betty Currie, in the days after his civil deposition.
10. President Clinton endeavored to obstruct justice during the grand jury investigation by refusing to testify for seven months and lying to senior White House aides with knowledge that they would relay the President's false statements to the grand jury – and did thereby deceive, obstruct, and impede the grand jury.
11. President Clinton abused his constitutional authority by (i) lying to the public and the Congress in January 1998 about his relationship with Ms. Lewinsky; (ii) promising at that time to cooperate fully with the grand jury investigation; (iii) later refusing six invitations to testify voluntarily to the grand jury; (iv) invoking Executive Privilege; (v) lying to the grand jury in August 1998; and (vi) lying again to the public and Congress on August 17, 1998 – all as part of an effort to hinder, impede, and deflect possible inquiry by the Congress of the United States.[8]
H.Res.611 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Impeaching William Jefferson Clinton, President of the...
Summary of H.Res.611 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Impeaching William Jefferson Clinton, President of the United States, for high crimes and misdemeanors.
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The Republicans, POTUS, and the Federal Government has sold out the nation based on parties instead of what is good for America. We are a laughing stock of the world.
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SSG (Join to see)
With all due respect, we have not been sold out. This is politics. Same old, same old. The mainstream media is helping create a narrative that is fueling tension and divide. Both sides of the aisle are either trying to help stoke the flames in their favor, or are trying to put them out.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
If Trump acted with purity, their will be less media coverage.Trump promising to show his tax forms in 2016, Trump showing an incorrect hurricane map, and drumming up business at Doral are not fake news. SSG (Join to see)
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