RON LOWY: I believe he has issues comprehending concepts. I think he has maturity issues. He is like a little boy in a man's body.
CORNISH: A little boy in a man's body - can we clarify that? Is he saying Sayoc has a mental disability?
KASTE: He believes that Sayoc does. Lowy has known this family for years. They hired him originally to represent their son in those cases. And he'd just talked to the family right before he talked to me. And he says they're completely distraught. They don't share their son's politics. They've long wanted to get him some mental health help, but he refuses treatment. And Lowy he doesn't know what kind of diagnosis he might have. But he believes that whatever it is, it's very serious, that Sayoc has trouble focusing on what people are saying, that he has trouble with concepts, abstractions. He also says Sayoc has lived in a van. Lowy doesn't recognize the van we've all seen in the news today that's been photographed with all those pro-Trump stickers on the van. But he says that when he knew Sayoc years ago, Sayoc was - also had a very distinctive-looking van.
LOWY: He even then drove a vehicle covered with Indian memorabilia because he believed himself to be an American Indian when in fact he has no Indian blood. His mother is Italian. His father is Filipino. And his mother would tell him constantly, why do you keep telling people you're Native American? Why do you put these things on your car? I mean, these are very odd behaviors of someone who doesn't live in reality.
KASTE: And Sayoc claimed to be Seminole. And the Seminole tribe has said today that they have no evidence in their records that he was.