Posted on Aug 2, 2018
Does Diversity Really Unite Us? Citizenship and Immigration
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This is an old discussion thread, I know Sgt Wayne Wood, but I'll just leave the thoughts of President Theodore Roosevelt here. It's his response to the question posed in the discussion thread.
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- The Obama administration did not have a zero tolerance policy of separating all illegal immigrants and children at the border. That did not exist until Sessions put out a memo in April 2018. The Obama administration only separated those who could not verify they were the parents or suspected trafficking was occurring.
- Not all children of those incarcerated in the US are separated from their families. They usually will go to the other parent or a family member if possible. If the incarcerated parent has no other family or the other parent can't take the child, then they go into foster care.
- Not everyone who has been detained crossing did so illegally.
- The phrase "politically correct" rarely was used until 1990. The right has made up this campaign against "political correctness." Americans hadn't even heard the term before 1990 until a New York Times reporter used it in an article and headline about the country's colleges threatened by "growing intolerance, closing of debate and pressure to conform."
ost Americans had never heard the phrase “politically correct” before 1990, when a wave of stories began to appear in newspapers and magazines. One of the first and most influential was published in October 1990 by the New York Times reporter Richard Bernstein, who warned – under the headline “The Rising Hegemony of the Politically Correct” – that the country’s universities were threatened by “a growing intolerance, a closing of debate, a pressure to conform”. This was after he had been at Berkeley and wrote about student activism and the university had an "unofficial" ideology to which “a cluster of opinions about race, ecology, feminism, culture and foreign policy defines a kind of ‘correct’ attitude toward the problems of the world”. Then mainstream publications began covering it. Before 1990 politically correct didn't exist if you search US magazines and newspapers. Publication were recycling stories about campus events that were exaggerated or stripped of content. There was a report of a Harvard history professor attacked by students who felt he had been racially insensitive - except that never happened. He had been criticized in the Harvard paper about his decision to read from the diaries of plantation owners for his lectures. No one attacked him or assaulted him. But that didn't matter to anyone then. That's when the fake concept of political correctness and the imaginary fight against it started on the right.
"PC was a useful invention for the Republican right because it helped the movement to drive a wedge between working-class people and the Democrats who claimed to speak for them. “Political correctness” became a term used to drum into the public imagination the idea that there was a deep divide between the “ordinary people” and the “liberal elite”, who sought to control the speech and thoughts of regular folk. Opposition to political correctness also became a way to rebrand racism in ways that were politically acceptable in the post-civil-rights era."
- Not all children of those incarcerated in the US are separated from their families. They usually will go to the other parent or a family member if possible. If the incarcerated parent has no other family or the other parent can't take the child, then they go into foster care.
- Not everyone who has been detained crossing did so illegally.
- The phrase "politically correct" rarely was used until 1990. The right has made up this campaign against "political correctness." Americans hadn't even heard the term before 1990 until a New York Times reporter used it in an article and headline about the country's colleges threatened by "growing intolerance, closing of debate and pressure to conform."
ost Americans had never heard the phrase “politically correct” before 1990, when a wave of stories began to appear in newspapers and magazines. One of the first and most influential was published in October 1990 by the New York Times reporter Richard Bernstein, who warned – under the headline “The Rising Hegemony of the Politically Correct” – that the country’s universities were threatened by “a growing intolerance, a closing of debate, a pressure to conform”. This was after he had been at Berkeley and wrote about student activism and the university had an "unofficial" ideology to which “a cluster of opinions about race, ecology, feminism, culture and foreign policy defines a kind of ‘correct’ attitude toward the problems of the world”. Then mainstream publications began covering it. Before 1990 politically correct didn't exist if you search US magazines and newspapers. Publication were recycling stories about campus events that were exaggerated or stripped of content. There was a report of a Harvard history professor attacked by students who felt he had been racially insensitive - except that never happened. He had been criticized in the Harvard paper about his decision to read from the diaries of plantation owners for his lectures. No one attacked him or assaulted him. But that didn't matter to anyone then. That's when the fake concept of political correctness and the imaginary fight against it started on the right.
"PC was a useful invention for the Republican right because it helped the movement to drive a wedge between working-class people and the Democrats who claimed to speak for them. “Political correctness” became a term used to drum into the public imagination the idea that there was a deep divide between the “ordinary people” and the “liberal elite”, who sought to control the speech and thoughts of regular folk. Opposition to political correctness also became a way to rebrand racism in ways that were politically acceptable in the post-civil-rights era."
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Sgt Wayne Wood
SFC Kelly Fuerhoff - for someone claiming to have a mind of their own you deftly avoided the argument offered and chose to focus on the phrase that should have meant nothing to you.
for someone with an independent mind, you certainly seem to have a fairly decent command of liberal talking points... totally disregarding facts.
for someone with an independent mind, you certainly seem to have a fairly decent command of liberal talking points... totally disregarding facts.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
Sgt Wayne Wood - I did not avoid any argument. I refuse to debate with people who use words such as "libtard" because they have nothing to offer to the discussion.
I don't disregard facts. You do and others like you. But I digress. I'm not having anymore discussion with you on this topic after seeing you resort to the use of libtard. Good day.
I don't disregard facts. You do and others like you. But I digress. I'm not having anymore discussion with you on this topic after seeing you resort to the use of libtard. Good day.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
Sgt Wayne Wood - You sound like petulant child. I don't give into my toddler when she throws a tantrum...not going to give into you when you throw one either. If you wanna act like a child you'll be treated as one.
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