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LTC John Griscom
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Never liked the "up or out" policy. Lost some good officers who functioned well at a level when they were forced out. Junior officers were promoted to fill the gap (some before they had acquired the knowledge and skills needed). Observed some of the policies in NATO armies in the 1970s; UK policy was mandatory retirement for Captain at age 60. Others were similar.
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SGM Steve Wettstein
SGM Steve Wettstein
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LTC John Griscom Sir, I agree with you on not liking up or out. It does help the NCO Corps at the E9 level. We used to have SNCOs find a cushy job and hibernate in it for years. At my first SGM job, the guy I replaced had been in position for 7 years. The year was 2010 and he had never deployed. Sergeants Major Branch told him he was moving and he didn't want to deploy, so he retired.
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COL Charles Williams
COL Charles Williams
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LTC John Griscom Roger, I agree. I saw many that would have served in any job, have to leave, because they two time non-selects. There is a place for those who are destined for higher level commands, and those who don't make the cut, but want to serve. As we know, boards are not always correct. Some, get selected who probably should not (opinion, I know), and many who should have don't.
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LTC Owner
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COL Charles Williams Do you find it hard to watch from the sidelines after being a part of the institution for so long?
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COL Charles Williams
COL Charles Williams
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LTC (Join to see) No, but I am typical. I retired in Military Community, and work for Army JROTC. I am probably more connected than most. But, I do miss so things, and others not so much. The Army is young man's game, and it was my time to pass the proverbial torch.
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LTC Jeff Shearer
LTC Jeff Shearer
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Yall I miss it, after my accident I did not even know I was retired. I would ask my wife why I was still at home, why I was not gone, why are they not calling me? It was a hard pill to swallow. But... But I guess I have kind of come to terms with it now haha
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CPT Air Operations (Soj36)
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The biggest concern I have with this is the Jon-standard implementation model — leaving it up to each service to change their regulations a la cart. This may serve to magnify the delta between what it means to serve 20 years in one service versus another, ultimately funneling top-talent into the fast-promoting branches and out of those slow to change.
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COL Charles Williams
COL Charles Williams
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CPT (Join to see) This, like all changes will take time. But, this was changed to complaints from Officers about lack of opportunities, and the lock step nature of Time in Service or Time in Grade.
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