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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
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First off - how are people going to join what is the epitome of conforming (the military) but bitch about not being able to be different? If it's against school policy to add things to the cap and gown, then it is. Just like there are uniform regulations in the military.

This has nothing to do with liberal or left leaning anything. That school is in Nebraska - one of the reddest damn states in the country. I know - I'm from Nebraska. So don't start with the "liberal left leaning" stuff. There is very little of that in the high schools in the state.

"The principal determined Pohlmeier would not be allowed to wear the sash because it falls outside the rules for what can be worn with gowns and caps at graduation, the Kansas City Star reported."

"Hastings Public Schools went on Facebook to explain what items are approved for wear to the ceremony, and to try to clear up what it called a “misrepresentation of our graduation.”
The students were wearing cords symbolizing Freshmen Mentoring, hoods representing the National Honor Society and medals for the “Top 10%,” all approved “symbols earned while attending our high school,” the district stated. "

How in the world does she expect to make it in the Army if she can't follow policies? So if she wants to add something to her military uniform, is she going to bitch and moan about that?

Also has she even finished basic? I'm pretty sure if she just graduated the most she's done is maybe basic doing split option.

My brother joined the National Guard after high school. At his graduation the principal recognized all them who were going into the military BUT no one asked for special sashes to put on their cap and gown. She wore it after graduation. Obviously people know she's going into the military. So why the need to highlight it?

It's funny that I see people on here who are outraged about this but are the first people to go after a soldier who tries to be an individual.
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TSgt David Holman
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The principal was right in this one, and if you really want to be in the Army (you are a recruit, you aren't there yet) you will understand very quickly what rules and regulations mean. If there are prescribed guidelines for what can and can't be worn (sounds almost like a uniform regulation) and you choose to go against that standard, you are held accountable for your choice.

That being said, this is another example of people using "patriotism" and "pride in service" as attacks, and in this case, they are wrong. It isn't "unpatriotic" to tell someone that they can't wear something given to them by a recruiter on a graduation gown.
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LCDR Sales & Proposals Manager Gas Turbine Products
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SFC Fuerhoff-Maybe I'm naive, but what's the "everything" we'd have to allow, and why is that a negative? I mean are we really that concerned about high school kids being "uniform"...or is there something I'm missing here?
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PFC Kevin Shelbrock
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LCDR (Join to see) - While I understand your question being a generalization about ridiculous standards being put on teenagers, I would like to rebuttal with the thought that the general discipline gained from things as simple as Uniform standard and Dress Code were upheld for a very long time in the world, and in the same era that we see kids acting more and more ridiculous we also see a lack of requirement in discipline based thoughts (such as dress code or uniform standard). While I don't dare say that making keeps maintain dress code would solve their discipline issues, it is indeed a small thing out of a 100 small things we used to due to instill that discipline into people. The more we lax up on all these little things, the more poorly behaved we will see people get.
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LCDR Sales & Proposals Manager Gas Turbine Products
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The discipline and order established by school uniforms is a good idea...one I'm in support of; no issue with any similar thoughts expressed above. I'm a parent-I've got some skin in the game. My only problem with this specific incident is that I believe that along with overly "lax" standards in our schools (and our society at large)...we've also adopted an attitude that caters to the lowest common denominator; sort of the "the just suffer for the unjust" mentality.

In general, I'm of the opinion that you can't "regulate" truly good behavior or values; people have to do what's right because they respect the system. Hand in hand with that is the presence of authority figures who re-enforce those ideals, and have the latitude to decide which is appropriate; a sash honoring a student's decision to enter the Service...or a tee-shirt with profanity on it.
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You're a dick TSgt.
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SSG (ret) William Martin
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Maybe I'm wrong here but if her sash was celebrating LBGTQ rights someone might have wondered she didn't obey the rules but they would not have said anything due to fear of the dark side of political correctness which causes people grief, loss of employment, and even violence.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
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You don't know that - because no one has tried.
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SSG (ret) William Martin
SSG (ret) William Martin
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Actually its happened but with foreign flags. The US flag has been disallowed at some schools what other flags have been allowed.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff - How would you know that it hasn't been or wasn't done?
Were you there?
Anything LGTBQ really isn't newsworthy any longer therefore it wouldn't have been mentioned in this article.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
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CPT (Join to see) - This post is 2 years old - I honestly have no clue what you're even replying to now without taking the time to read back on this. I don't keep track of all the things on here I commented on especially from 2 years ago.
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