Posted on May 9, 2018
U.S. Navy’s Costliest Warship Suffers New Failure at Sea
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Really another costly debacle within the shipbuilding industry and all the subcontracted institutions responsible for quality manufacturing and process control of systems and the components vital to mission readiness !! When are the leaders responsible for contract ovetsite ,going to institute new government quality controls and standards too prevent this type of misguided practice. Navsea along with everyone else need to up their game so this kind of bullshit continuesto decay a fleet which at current levels will not be able too go forward in 40 different directions, to prevent sea lanes from blockage by foreign adversaries ? I distinctly recall when we were in a dry dock overhaul, we as ship's company carried our ship's plans/prints and we verified that the shipyard workers were in fact performing per all standard's required. The parts wrre in fact tested/inspected per all quality standards prior to installation. I guess something's changed since I retired in 93 after 25 years, definitely in the scope of leadership and mentorship of subordinates to carry out assigned tasks dsy in and day out. Every time I read the Navy times there's been another at sea collision system failure/breakdown either through poorly manufactured components or crew negligence? What in the sam Hell is going on out there in the United States Navy, in which I so proudly served in ?
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CWO3 Dennis M.
SCPO Larry Knight Sr. Well said Senior Chief! And now we know why they did not want to shock test this new class of Carrier!!! Like you Senior Chief, I have to take great pause in what our "New" Navy is doing and what it is getting for it's money, or should I say for the taxpayers money?
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SCPO Larry Knight Sr.
CWO3 Dennis M.
Exactly shipmate, its as though their attempting to reinvent the wheel. The wheel never broke, it's the dum shits in charge of ensuring the wheel still turns in the proper rotation. I may be pushing 70, but the mind still functions as well as when I enlisted. I just don't understand what's happened at the top of the food chain, never seemed to be a issue from the deck plates. Has our largest nuclear Navy started to unravel or worse there's a serious I don't give a shit attitude from our combined mess' ? I surely hope that's not the case, that would mean we need to reenlist to straighten out the shit !
Exactly shipmate, its as though their attempting to reinvent the wheel. The wheel never broke, it's the dum shits in charge of ensuring the wheel still turns in the proper rotation. I may be pushing 70, but the mind still functions as well as when I enlisted. I just don't understand what's happened at the top of the food chain, never seemed to be a issue from the deck plates. Has our largest nuclear Navy started to unravel or worse there's a serious I don't give a shit attitude from our combined mess' ? I surely hope that's not the case, that would mean we need to reenlist to straighten out the shit !
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PO3 J.W. Nelson
Awfully hard to oversee actually hands on work and verify the proper installation and testing of different systems while sitting in an air conditioned office in a different city ?? The need for oversite and on-site inspectors has never been needed more than it is right now in the shipbuilding industry, especially with unscrupulous sub-contractors who are willing to cut corners to make a dollar, regardless of what danger it places on our military !!
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SCPO Larry Knight Sr.
PO3J.W. Nelson
This exactly what I'm referring to, when I served we actually had the factory representative of the company's involved onboard our vessel. They were tasked with riding with us to insure the materials covered were up to all specs including witnessing the installation ! Once everything was completed all the appropriate accountable signatures were documented for future refrence if there was a question of when a change was made and of course in the event of a failure. We never had the issues with arm chair quarterbacks, so to speak. I suppose things have taken a downward spiral in this aspect of the Navy,and companies/subcontract firms to this effect ?
This exactly what I'm referring to, when I served we actually had the factory representative of the company's involved onboard our vessel. They were tasked with riding with us to insure the materials covered were up to all specs including witnessing the installation ! Once everything was completed all the appropriate accountable signatures were documented for future refrence if there was a question of when a change was made and of course in the event of a failure. We never had the issues with arm chair quarterbacks, so to speak. I suppose things have taken a downward spiral in this aspect of the Navy,and companies/subcontract firms to this effect ?
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MCPO Roger Collins
There should be severe financial penalties for quality and design issues, just like in the private industry.
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CWO3 Dennis M.
LCDR (Join to see) MCPO Roger Collins - You Roger and Bill are both correct, and it was my main rant after I read the story, but did not read down to what you guys said! But I would like to hear what you think about my rant!
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PO1 Gery Bastiani
hell go back to #6 fuel oil and steam power, but we have problems with warranty work. I work in the main. dept for Pender county school and the last school that was built during the first year when issues popped up instead of the contactor coming back to fix it we ended up doing the work
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About time the Navy takes the heat off the Air Force and F-35! When will people realize you don't push technology and not have setbacks and cost increases? Every time I see people complaining about these massive failures with new weapon systems I think back to a fiasco on a much lesser scale involving an automobile. Back in late 1973 we bought a 1974 Buick before I was going to deploy on an Arc Light tour on the theory that a new car would be less hassle for my wife and young son while alone on base. Well 1974 Buick's had this remarkable safety feature that wouldn't let you start your car if drivers seatbelt wasn't latched. You guessed it, system didn't work very well and I spent at least one day a week at the dealer trying to figure out why car wouldn't start with seatbelt latched from one day to the next. Fortunately (?????) we lived in Michigan and they actually had people drive up from the Buick factory to help resolve the problem. Supposedly federal law mandated the interlock, so it couldn't be disconnected. About three weeks before I deployed the problem seemed to be resolved but about a month into the tour got a letter (no instant communications back then) from my wife saying the car wouldn't start again and she was back to frequent trips to the dealer. Guess GM finally acknowledged problems with the system and got permission to disconnect it and I don't recall it being offered after the 1974 model year. But moral of story, technology doesn't always work the way engineers planned and there will be issues, be it cars, aircraft or aircraft carriers.
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen Col while I agree with you this was not some high tech piece of equipment. This was a thrust bearing, a huge bearing that transfers the force used to push the ship through the water to the hull so the shaft does not just push its way through the ship. These have been around since we shifted from sail to steam in some form or fashion. This is just an example of poor workmanship and lack of QC. Yes I am all about pushing the envelope and feeling some pain on the backend for the good of the cause like the F-35 (amazing), LCS, Railguns, Lasers, etc....
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
Ya does seem strange that a bearing is the issue, but possibly was some new high tech machine used to produce it? One would like to think that QC for a project like the Ford would be up there, but who knows.
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PO3 J.W. Nelson
Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen - Would seem to me that in the thrust bearing department.....there was no QC ??
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