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SGM Erik Marquez
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UHmm, lets see
Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (IAVA) says he is a bad candidate.
They polled ONLY their members and came away with "most post 9 - 11 Vets" do not support him.
Is it surprising that members of IAVA would vote along their membership organizer views?
How does polling only members of a single organization equal "Most Post-9/11 Veterans " ?
And notice anything missing worth that statement ? "most-post-9-11-veterans-do-not-support-jackson-for-va-secretary"
Are those the only Vets that matter? Post 9-11 vets that belong to IAVA?
What of the few million of non post 9 - 11 Vets?
What of the few million post 9 - 11 Vets not members of IAVA?

This is no different than going to a Mothers against everything members only meeting and asking "Do you support more gun control?" Or a DNC nation meeting and asking "Do you support a democrat for president next cycle?" The outcome of the "poll" is easily assured.
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IAVA is the primary VSO representing interests of post-9/11 vets, with over 400,000 members. Other VSOs poll their own members, so this is very common. To get better informed on who IAVA members are and on their opinions, you can see our annual survey here: https://iava.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/IAVA_Survey_2017_v11update.pdf
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SGM Erik Marquez
SGM Erik Marquez
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CAPT (Join to see) - They surveyed 2,266 IAVA members and make a claim "Most"
Sorry, its misleading at BEST, dishonest otherwise
Its not even "most" of the IAVA members .. using your number of 400,000 that 2266 members surveyed is about 1/2 of 1 percent and still its only "most" of that 1/2 of a percent.

Yes, I have a prioblem, no matter what "side" it is, when they lie, or play with the data to "support" thier postion and make unvalidated claims.
The worst of it....it might very well be a valid position I might want to support, but how can it be trusted?
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That is an excellent sampling with only +/- 2% margin for error and a 95% confidence level. You can chose to ignore it, but I'd suggest you go talk to a professional pollster to get it explained to you. A sampling of only 1,000 can get an accurate sample of US public opinion. We regularly provide testimony to Congress with our data and if it was not legitimate, we would get called out. We don't.
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CPT Jack Durish
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Some valid points, but will everyone be fully satisfied with anyone?
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I don't think so. Very tough job and whoever gets it always takes arrows. We worked well with McDonald and Shulkin, but unfortunately the latter shot himself in the foot. That and partisan infighting at VA.
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I have no issue with the small percentage of surveys used to determine the percentages. That's the entire process of polling and there is a lot of statistics and math behind how that all works. But I agree that since only IAVA members were polled and no non members, then the headlines should read "most post 9/11 veteran members of IAVA do not support...". There is a population selection issue if you try and imply that the IAVA members equally represent the opinions of all post 9/11 vets. It would be like saying that NRA members opinions are the same as all American gun owners, which is just not valid.
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