Posted on Mar 31, 2018
California governor pardons 5 men facing deportation
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Can the Leader of Luxembourg give American Jim a pardon for crimes I commit? Why would a state government work the manhour$$ to make pardons for foreign nationals? Who does the state work for and defend?
Some of the crimes that get pardoned for foreigners, but I am not sure if Americans get pardoned for the same crimes.
Pheach was convicted of possessing drugs and obstructing a police officer in 2005 and another criminal convicted in 1995 of kidnapping, robbery and being a felon in possession of a firearm and served five years in prison. Chhan was convicted of two counts of misdemeanor domestic violence in 2002 and served 364 days in jail.
Pheach was convicted
Some of the crimes that get pardoned for foreigners, but I am not sure if Americans get pardoned for the same crimes.
Pheach was convicted of possessing drugs and obstructing a police officer in 2005 and another criminal convicted in 1995 of kidnapping, robbery and being a felon in possession of a firearm and served five years in prison. Chhan was convicted of two counts of misdemeanor domestic violence in 2002 and served 364 days in jail.
Pheach was convicted
California governor pardons 5 men facing deportation
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Considering how long ago their crimes, and what they would have to return to, I applaud him for being merciful in these cases.
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Gov Brown did the right thing. A guy who is a legal resident makes a mistake in 1995. He serves 5 years in prison, is released in 2000,, turns his life around, and for the next 18 years lives as a productive member of society. Then ICE comes along and says "remember that crime you did and paid your debt to society 18 years ago? Well, under the fine print of a green card, we are NOW going to deport you because you are a bad hombre".
In these pardon cases, the people have made mistakes, some relatively minor, paid their penalty, and then lived crime free lives for years and years. Now ICE is trying to send them back to countries where in some cases they haven't lived in since they were 1 years old. It's a crock to try and say that these people are a threat to society and need to be removed from our country. This is a hateful policy based upon a technicality.
Brown has also pardoned some vets who were then able to get their citizenship. The power of the pardon is about applying judgement and compassion to situations where a super strict technical application of a law can lead to an unfair or unjust outcome. I'd much rather see people like this pardoned that that racists sheriff Arpaio.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/hector-barajas-deported-citizenship-deported-veterans-support-house-tijuana-jerry-brown-pardon-a8282096.html
In these pardon cases, the people have made mistakes, some relatively minor, paid their penalty, and then lived crime free lives for years and years. Now ICE is trying to send them back to countries where in some cases they haven't lived in since they were 1 years old. It's a crock to try and say that these people are a threat to society and need to be removed from our country. This is a hateful policy based upon a technicality.
Brown has also pardoned some vets who were then able to get their citizenship. The power of the pardon is about applying judgement and compassion to situations where a super strict technical application of a law can lead to an unfair or unjust outcome. I'd much rather see people like this pardoned that that racists sheriff Arpaio.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/hector-barajas-deported-citizenship-deported-veterans-support-house-tijuana-jerry-brown-pardon-a8282096.html
US Army veteran Hector Barajas to return home more than a decade after he was deported to Mexico
Eight years after he was last deported to Mexico, a US army veteran is returning to California. A pardon last year from Governor Jerry Brown cleared the way for Hector Barajas, who was living in Tijuana, to secure citizenship. He received word that his request was granted and is set to be sworn in in San Diego next month, according to the American Civil Liberties Union.
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1stSgt Eugene Harless
Do you read the crimes he was convicted of? While he might have changed his life, he was no plaster saint and deserved to get deported. I really hope he straightened out, otherwise we will be paying for his accommodations. Service does not guarantee citizenship, it just expedites it for those that apply.
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I don't think a governor can pardon someone on federal law (deportation)? The sole purpose is to stop deportation. But its California so the rules might be different.
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MAJ Byron Oyler
What he is doing Sir is pardoning people from penal convictions under California state law and than that changes the deportation case. What it is doing is setting a precedence that if you are a veteran in Ca and not a US citizen, you can commit crimes he will pardon late if ICE comes for you. Horrible precedent.
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SSgt GG-15 RET Jim Lint
COL (Join to see) This almost sounds like obstruction of the federal immigration laws?
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1stSgt Eugene Harless
SSgt GG-15 RET Jim Lint - Looking at it from a layman's terms, it's unethical as hell but not illegal. The grounds for deporting them was that they were convicted felons. By pardoning them the State removes the Felony from their record, eradicating the justification for deportation,,,, at least that one.
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