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MSgt Mark Bucher
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The AF started becoming a corporation long before you were in. It goes back to Merrill McPeak and his TQM brainchild. Not to mention changing the dress uniform, trying to copy the RAF. During the great downsizing after the first Gulf War, it became all about how a person appears, rather than how a person performs. All EPRs were blown out of proportion, medals became rank and quota restricted. I could go on and on, ad infinitum.
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MSgt Mark Bucher Truth. We look like profession dress suit wearers, not warfighters.
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It's not just the Air Force...or even the Military at large; it's Western Civilization at large.

You've possibly opened a proverbial "can o'worms" here...but maybe it's time. At the risk of sounding like a whining, self-absorbed armchair admiral, here's my two cents:

Some people need to get their head out of their six. Fighting wars is about killing other human beings-The individuals capable of doing that, whether with a rifle, an F-18, a DDG, or a ballistic missile are not usually the same people who thrive in less aggressive professions (along admittedly varied lines). They drink, curse, fornicate, adulterate, blaspheme and are usually impatient, demanding and possibly not that introspective (at least not most of the time).

Yes, we need to honor the values we defend, every bit as much as the way we defend them...but keep the reporters, the lawyers, the activists, the idealists, the wanna-bes and the could've-beens on the sidelines. Since "we" don't fit everyone's idea of the perfect person...find ways to give us a decent life within our own "tribe", rather than casting us out to the four winds every time Congress needs to find funds to do something else, that likely won't work anyway. Give second, maybe third chances...it takes time to build a weapon system.

As long as there are men and women, both will try to engage in sexual activity with each other. There's a line between pursuit and crime...it's common sense...we can enforce it easier than any social justice think-tank can imagine. It's not a "man's world" in the Military...it's a Warrior's world. This means one can't expect the same culture within as without and have either. Paint "Blonde Bombshells" on the bombers...put swimsuit calendars back in the fan room...hell, name your M4 "Betsy"...or "Bob", or "Stu", or whatever makes one feel like they're risking their life and taking others for something more than a paycheck and a VA benefit.

Speaking of which, how about making it as attractive to serve as to reap the benefits later? True, people get hurt-bad, physically and emotionally. True, we as a nation "owe" them. However, we all know that leaving active duty as an E-4 to enter the job force today isn't much better than begging for the scraps from the table. Maybe if we got rid of the "$75,000 a year" water tester, the "$60,000 a year" contract Eastern European labor, and got back to doing it ourselves, less folks would be pushed out, let alone want to try their luck elsewhere.

Finally, no intent to "gripe" here...just trying to say it like it is. We're not the government, or the People...we execute the decisions of one to defend the other. We ARE different than those who (wisely) choose a safer, less brutal way of making a living. If we pray, we pray to God because we probably understand sin better than any other. If we don't it isn't because we think the guy or gal who does is wasting their time...not if it helps them to stand on the line with us and get the job done. If something we "want" takes from them, we can do without it. If they're owed it...we demand it. We don't want "recognition"...we want respect, and not from "them", but one another. We force ourselves and those wanting to join us to earn it. Why? Because that may be the most valuable thing we'll ever have.
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LCDR (Join to see) VERY well said, LCDR!!!
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Hey LCDR "Armchair General" you realize that Support career fields make up MOST of the DOD, and the knuckle dragging Neanderthals you described are 1) truly a problem 2) vast minority 3) not representative of the fine servicemembers as a whole
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Scot-With respect, you might be detailing at least part of the problem. "Support" is exactly that...support of combat operations, not a "separate" culture. Some of the finest, most aggressive, mission-focused and combat essential people I've known are in fields like logistics, medicine, and even Chaplains. No less important to warfighting than the "shooters". As to "knuckle dragging Neanderthals"...I'm sincerely sorry that this is how you interpret my comments-I presume you don't hold that view yourself of the rank and file. Your impressive experience among some of our finest Soldiers would leave me to assume you'd understand what I'm saying better than I. "Vast minority"? The Air Force must be very different from when I was flying with them, often staying on their bases, and serving with them overseas...many, if not most of the great Airmen I knew would probably agree with at least half of what I said. Now, since I've obviously given offense to you, let me offer you at least one point against me-Certainly, I've known many Sailors, Soldiers, Airmen and Marines who would never cheat on their spouse, blaspheme the name of God almighty, or do anything else to impinge their morality. There's several things on that "list" I'd not do, and some I've done in my youth, I'd happily take back, and hope God has indeed forgiven me for. If that's where you're going...then we agree. My point is that the Military is neither a Sunday School nor a corporation, and running it as either has potential negative impacts to mission readiness.
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MAJ Scot Hamilton-Over the weekend, I thought a great deal about your comments, and mine. The exchange troubled me enough to ask someone whose opinion and experience far exceeds my own; this is what they said, "You're technically right...but you could've stated it better". The truth is...they're right. Yes, I maintain my point: By necessity, the Military is a "different world". However, there are several over-generalizations I've presented that could take away from some very honorable, decent and moral attributes of the Service, and for that, I offer sincere apology. I hope my previous comment illustrates that far from denigrating "non-combat arms" communities, what I was trying to do is make a firm statement about the "culture" of the Military as a whole. Thank you for keeping me on track, and best wishes-Dizzy
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