Posted on Nov 7, 2017
Poll: Trump Accomplishing Little in Final Year as President
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MCPO Roger Collins
When did this final year begin? What a stupid premise. All the mind number “I hate Trumpers” jumped right in. Keep your powder dry, five more years coming.
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Trump supporters will claim Keystone Pipeline pumping oil, Stock market at record levels, Labor Participation Rate increasing, Unemployment Rate lowest in decades, SNAP recipients drop 1.5 millions, Foreign businesses moving to USA, and GDP 3+% got two quarters.
In doing so, they'll ignore that there hasn't been one single piece of legislation passed by Congress and signed by Trump that influences economy, jobs, and unemployment. Still living in the shadow of Obama's policies where stock market had been steadily rising, unemployment rate already at the 4% rate, and economic growth out of a recession. Bragging about foreign businesses moving to the US? Didn't he promise getting those US companies to stop shipping jobs overseas and considered globalism a threat? That didn't happen. SNAP and other government assistance programs seeing drop in use? Has more to do with cuts in the programming and not because there aren't Americans that still need assistance. Even the amount of job growth has slowed down because the administration's focus has been coal and fossil fuels; not actual industries that are growing globally and bringing in foreign investors. Oh and how many American jobs did the two pipelines bring again? Exactly.
Have to enjoy the New Yorker making humor out of actual reality.
In doing so, they'll ignore that there hasn't been one single piece of legislation passed by Congress and signed by Trump that influences economy, jobs, and unemployment. Still living in the shadow of Obama's policies where stock market had been steadily rising, unemployment rate already at the 4% rate, and economic growth out of a recession. Bragging about foreign businesses moving to the US? Didn't he promise getting those US companies to stop shipping jobs overseas and considered globalism a threat? That didn't happen. SNAP and other government assistance programs seeing drop in use? Has more to do with cuts in the programming and not because there aren't Americans that still need assistance. Even the amount of job growth has slowed down because the administration's focus has been coal and fossil fuels; not actual industries that are growing globally and bringing in foreign investors. Oh and how many American jobs did the two pipelines bring again? Exactly.
Have to enjoy the New Yorker making humor out of actual reality.
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MAJ James Woods
GySgt Russell Fulgham - Uh huh. GDP growth was slow. It's been down since Clinton left office so if that's your argument we should've put another Clinton in office since that was the last time the economy did so well.
"The current recovery began in mid-2009 and is currently just over 6 years old and, based on forecasts from a broad range of forecasters, is expected to continue for some time." --"Obama's Economic Legacy: Just the facts"
In other words, actions taken by Obama and a Dem-controlled House is partly responsible for the economic recovery. Imagine if the Dems maintained control of the House and passed the jobs bill, the infrastructure bill, and an actual budget. Yeah I think you know where I'm going here.
"The current recovery began in mid-2009 and is currently just over 6 years old and, based on forecasts from a broad range of forecasters, is expected to continue for some time." --"Obama's Economic Legacy: Just the facts"
In other words, actions taken by Obama and a Dem-controlled House is partly responsible for the economic recovery. Imagine if the Dems maintained control of the House and passed the jobs bill, the infrastructure bill, and an actual budget. Yeah I think you know where I'm going here.
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Imagine a time, if you will, where a terrorist attack did not wipe away the balanced budget that was attacking our national debt and was on schedule to do so for 10 years. While doing that, imagine that a Dem president was in office with a Republican Congress when this budget passed.
Only now are we finding people to blame or reward for actions that frankly have more than one factor to consider. It is telling that the stock market started to boom exactly 1 year ago and it is also telling when some news outlets do publish not only the unemployment rate but the jobs participation rate as well in order to remain as transparent about the statistics as they can. Not every outlet has historically done that.
But to my original point. When you are in office, you should get the credit. When you leave, you dont. The ACA is the problem of the current administration even if the subsidies were set to expire after the previous administration left (on purpose). If we lament or celebrate the past when we have more important fish to fry then we are wasting time, money, lives, and resources.
Only now are we finding people to blame or reward for actions that frankly have more than one factor to consider. It is telling that the stock market started to boom exactly 1 year ago and it is also telling when some news outlets do publish not only the unemployment rate but the jobs participation rate as well in order to remain as transparent about the statistics as they can. Not every outlet has historically done that.
But to my original point. When you are in office, you should get the credit. When you leave, you dont. The ACA is the problem of the current administration even if the subsidies were set to expire after the previous administration left (on purpose). If we lament or celebrate the past when we have more important fish to fry then we are wasting time, money, lives, and resources.
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MAJ James Woods
CW5 (Join to see) - 1. Imagine a time that we focused on Al Qaeda and left Iraq alone. 2. When it comes to giving credit where credit is due, it would be nice if Trump and GOP gave Obama some credit for the numbers they proudly stated as fake until they took over. So yeah this is indeed about assigning cause with effect. There's a reason it's called a legacy. You give credit based on existing laws and policies, not promises.
So next time something bad happens under Trump like a terror attack and the first thing that comes out of Trump's mouth is "this is fault of Obama and his administration" remember your comment.
Also the ACA subsidies are tied to the annual budget and a standing law; they don't expire. GOP refusing to uphold the law and pay the subsidies isn't the same as an expiration. As more Americans enroll, imagine if instead of $700B pledged to defense industry or $25B for a wall, some of that money actually went to enforcing the healthcare law.
So next time something bad happens under Trump like a terror attack and the first thing that comes out of Trump's mouth is "this is fault of Obama and his administration" remember your comment.
Also the ACA subsidies are tied to the annual budget and a standing law; they don't expire. GOP refusing to uphold the law and pay the subsidies isn't the same as an expiration. As more Americans enroll, imagine if instead of $700B pledged to defense industry or $25B for a wall, some of that money actually went to enforcing the healthcare law.
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As you may not realize, I am neither a fan or opponent of any President: current, past or future as I, personally, am doing fine having deployed many times over the last 21 years. I anticipate no change even if Donald Duck took office in 2020.
1) Imagine a time when Donald Rumsfeld didnt dupe an entire country
2) Politics will not allow that to happen. Legacies are as fragile as facts. Cause and effect are observed by scientists, anecdotal experiences, but apparently not news media outlets that skew ideas.
Why did the ACA need subsidies at all? Because financially, it doesn't work and insurance companies would need to fold in order to fulfill the ACA without financial aid.
Refusing to uphold the law? Quite funny considering Eric Holder....but thats a diversionary tactic on my part. Does the GOP run everything and are above the law? I don't think so and frankly the first I am hearing it described that way. Even CNN hasnt had that as a headline nor NPR have a broadcast on that (i listen daily).
We wouldn't need $700 billion if some idiots hadn't decided to crash planes into a building while having a corrupt acquisition community filling the pockets of major contracting companies.
We might not have had to drop bombs on Japan either had they not had dreams of Empire. Some things we cannot change, turn back, or even seem to learn from by discussing on RallyPoint or Facebook....or by electing Presidents and Congressmen from either political ideology.
I do not want to imagine everyone signing onto the ACA. I used to sell insurance and know the entire premise of the ACA is against the infrastructure and concept of insurance (division of risk between two parties). Instead, there needed to be work done as to why healthcare in the US is so expensive in the first place. That's a complex problem that should be tackled.
1) Imagine a time when Donald Rumsfeld didnt dupe an entire country
2) Politics will not allow that to happen. Legacies are as fragile as facts. Cause and effect are observed by scientists, anecdotal experiences, but apparently not news media outlets that skew ideas.
Why did the ACA need subsidies at all? Because financially, it doesn't work and insurance companies would need to fold in order to fulfill the ACA without financial aid.
Refusing to uphold the law? Quite funny considering Eric Holder....but thats a diversionary tactic on my part. Does the GOP run everything and are above the law? I don't think so and frankly the first I am hearing it described that way. Even CNN hasnt had that as a headline nor NPR have a broadcast on that (i listen daily).
We wouldn't need $700 billion if some idiots hadn't decided to crash planes into a building while having a corrupt acquisition community filling the pockets of major contracting companies.
We might not have had to drop bombs on Japan either had they not had dreams of Empire. Some things we cannot change, turn back, or even seem to learn from by discussing on RallyPoint or Facebook....or by electing Presidents and Congressmen from either political ideology.
I do not want to imagine everyone signing onto the ACA. I used to sell insurance and know the entire premise of the ACA is against the infrastructure and concept of insurance (division of risk between two parties). Instead, there needed to be work done as to why healthcare in the US is so expensive in the first place. That's a complex problem that should be tackled.
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Keystone Pipeline pumping oil
Stock market at record levels
Labor Participation Rate increasing
Unemployment Rate lowest in decades
SNAP recipients drop 1.5 millions
Foreign businesses moving to USA
GDP 3+% got two quarters
Stock market at record levels
Labor Participation Rate increasing
Unemployment Rate lowest in decades
SNAP recipients drop 1.5 millions
Foreign businesses moving to USA
GDP 3+% got two quarters
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