Posted on Oct 10, 2017
‘I now hate my ship’: Surveys reveal disastrous morale on cruiser Shiloh
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The CO was my upperclassman while I was at the Naval Academy. He certainly wasn't like that there... Command is a different beast all together, and I would have to ask what is going on in 7th Fleet. It seems like there are serious, serious problems all through the fleet.
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LT Brad McInnis I think I knew him when he was CO of the USS Sentry in Ingleside. By that time I was working more on the group command level but nothing stands out. Not a lot of Cruiser Commanders can say they are in their fourth command at sea tour. Maybe he was just tired, maybe the crew is a bunch of pansies. Who knows. I once gave a serious of leadership lectures on how the The Caine Mutiny was not as much a story about a crazy (Eccentric yes) Capt. but more about a Wardroom that did not support him in front of the crew. A negative command climate can be created on many fronts. I for one am glad they did not fire him over a survey.
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CMDCM Gene Treants
GySgt John Olson - I totally agree with your meme. But not with the quote from LCDR (Join to see). I get that surveys are not used to fire CO's but to allow commands to improve themselves.
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PO1 Tony Holland I had to double check that this wasn't from Duffelblog. I was hoping it was satirical. This is sad.
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So this is a pretty complete study of what NT feels is a failure of a CO. Where is the study on the USS Fitzgerald. That is much more important and some arbitrary command survey that no one pays attention to.
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CMDCM Gene Treants
I know that the real use of these studies is to let commands work on self-improvements and usually no one is ever fired as a result. I know only THREE of the survey's supposedly commented on the use of Bread and Water in the Brig, but when did we go back to that as a normal punishment? And really, “Even the taxi drivers on base know us for being the ‘USS Bread and Water.’” If that is true, I wonder where the rest of the 7th Fleet was, but maybe that was answered by the performance shown in the other ships assigned there.
It seems to me LCDR (Join to see) this survey just reveals yet another long-standing problem in ships homeported in Japan. It is time to look at all of the different indicators of problems out there and this is another one. I fully agree that Fitzgerald and McCain probably had more significant problems and am also waiting to see the answers there.
It seems to me LCDR (Join to see) this survey just reveals yet another long-standing problem in ships homeported in Japan. It is time to look at all of the different indicators of problems out there and this is another one. I fully agree that Fitzgerald and McCain probably had more significant problems and am also waiting to see the answers there.
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