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I always love having the Cadets around during the summer. But I never knew they went to ANG units too. Fantastic idea, it's important for them to realize the function of the ANG and how they fit in the overall picture of the AF.
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SSgt Ryan Sylvester
Wait, think I misunderstood what you were saying, heh. Yeah, it's really good to get exposure to all the different elements of service, including the Guard. Especially the Guard, really, since the Guard is very unique in their overall mission.
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Maj Marty Hogan
I know several but not common. More so in the late 80s early 90s. We just took in a cadet pilot last year so it does work.
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SSgt Ryan Sylvester
Maj Marty Hogan - Yeah, PALACE CHASE was definitely not a common program to take advantage of. I knew more that did Blue to Green... which is to say, two, heh. Of course, there were people that considered PALACE CHASE, myself included at one point... but I think when you select your service component for initial enlistment/commissioning, you tend to stick with it. Why have the headache of yet more paperwork?
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Maj Marty Hogan
SSgt Ryan Sylvester - Yep. Plus you double down on your commitment time- that has bit a few people so far.
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I may also add that in terms of Air Force senior ROTC Cadets (College level) some of their flying orientation is actually being provided in Civil Air Patrol aircraft with CAP Pilots in CAP aircraft doing the instruction. There actually is a program in place to accomplish this task. For those that aren't familiar with CAP it is the official Auxiliary of the US Air Force. I may add that CAP also has a Cadet program of their own which is equal to AF junior ROTC. (High school level)
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SSgt Ryan Sylvester
That's why CAP awards are authorized to wear with AFJROTC uniforms (I'm assuming that's still the case, certainly was when I was a JROTC cadet). CAP wings, as well, were authorized to wear if the cadet earned them in the CAP.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
SSgt Ryan Sylvester - Also in the case of both CAP and JROTC once each has reached a certain point in their cadet training they can enter the Air Force with two stripes, which is A1C, E3 instead of Airman Basic E1 as most do. Many of our CAP Cadets and also JROTC Cadets though did go beyond that and became Officers. In any even in both cases it did result is those Cadet becoming members of the USAF, active, duty, Guard or Reserve.
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SSgt Ryan Sylvester
SMSgt Lawrence McCarter - Yes, which is a huge benefit. I don't know what the requirements for CAP were, but I know JROTC was 3 years in the program for E3 (no extra benefit for 4 year cadets like me, heh). And, when you come in as E3, your automatic bump to E4 gets shaved by 8 months (28 months TIS instead of 36), with BTZ eligibility at 22 months. Which, of course, means you can also start testing earlier for E5.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
SSgt Ryan Sylvester - In CAP there is an achievement level with what is called the Billy Mitchell award, which has a cadet service ribbon and is a level of training that is required which in most cases may take about 3 years, less for a fast mover. That award is required to enter as an E3, no extra advance for awards beyond that for the USAF.
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