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When Obama implemented DACA, he expected Congress to follow it up with some kind of immigration reform whether because they agreed with it or opposed it. After 6 years of DACA, Congress accomplished nothing. Now Trump is doing the same in reverse, rescind DACA unless Congress follows it up with some kind of immigration reform because they either agree with his decision or oppose it. Only this time, if Congress does nothing, the repercussions will be far more painful. Under Obama, those undocumented individuals identified themselves, got valid work permits and became lawful taxpayers. If Trump gets his way, that revenue source goes away and taxpayers will foot the bill for an even heftier deportation process.
So it will be interesting to see what Congress does.
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MAJ James Woods
MAJ James Woods
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MSG Mark Million - Yes and DACA is also a law to ease the burden and improve conditions until Congress does there job. Don't say it isn't a law because it was an EO if you're not willing to address the EOs signed by any other president to resolve issues Congress is sidestepping for partisan reasons.
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SSG Robert Webster
SSG Robert Webster
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MAJ James Woods - That is BS and you know it.
Number one - Unless they have a change in status, they DACA do not have eligibility to apply for legal residency or citizenship, with one exception (those that apply for citizenship while on active duty).
The program does not provide lawful status or a path to citizenship, nor does it provide eligibility for federal welfare or student aid.
As for the rest of the items that you have listed - sorry but those situations do not protect anyone from deportation. Secondly, they can not have an active application for residency unless their status has changed. If status has changed different process, may take longer than expected due to illegal status to begin with. If they are serving in the military they are not eligible for deportation unless they commit an illegal act, secondly there is an avenue to citizenship for those serving in the military depending on circumstance. In college no comment. Married and has kids, sorry, they should have known and informed their spouse or significant other of their immigration status; in most of these cases, I would even consider this immigration marriage fraud, since that is probably the main purpose of the marriage, unfortunately in these cases the spouse or significant other usually does not qualify or meet the eligibility requirements for sponsorship. For those that have a business, sorry, but they probably would not qualify under the business owner rules to begin with, which means that someone should be a sponsor to them and take on that financial and legal responsibility; the problem with that - very few people are willing to step up and make that kind of commitment, they want to place the burden on the government; sorry but I do not agree to that. For those that say that last one, I say "Put YOUR money where your mouth is."

The other part that I do not agree with - You and others are not apparently willing to step forward and take on the legal and financial responsibility of these individuals and state that the government should be doing this. Instead of laying this at the governments feet, step forward find one of these DACA individuals and sponsor them fully; take the $495 out of your pocket every 2 years, the $1,225 for the green card filing fee and biometric charge, and then for every renewal period pay $540, and then the $640 for Naturalization. OR if you want to sponsor one with a business, it is $3,675. Oh yes, if you sponsor them you are also liable for the taxes they owe or would owe, so if they did not pay their taxes, the IRS can come after you.

Usually once this is all spelled out to most people, they then say let the government handle it; sorry, but I have a hard enough time supporting my own family without having some of my taxes being used to support someone because we (Americans) are compassionate, sorry be compassionate with your own money.
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MSG Mark Million
MSG Mark Million
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I never had any intention of saying it wasn't a law. But at the rate co gress is moving I will be lo g dead and gone before they act on something better.
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MAJ James Woods
MAJ James Woods
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SSG Robert Webster - Listening to testimonials of many DACA recipients that been interviewed over the years, many of them aren't asking for someone to pay their way but are asking for the opportunity to succeed themselves. So much for your sponsorship BS. If I personally knew one and they asked me to sponsor them I would but shame on me for not volunteering to sponsor a stranger. I didn't realize that was a sin.

And it's naïve of you to assume a DACA recipient hid their immigration status from their spouse. You really give them no credit with that statement.

Next you'll tell me they don't want to be here legally and it's on them that Congress hasn't done more since Obama implemented DACA to allow them to stay and continue to contribute in the manner they have been doing for years now. DACA doesn't allow them to apply for residency so deport them. Congress hasn't passed laws to allow them to apply for residency so deport them. In the end, you blame them.

By the way, it's funny that Trump this morning now says he's willing to revisit the issue should Congress fail to pass legislation in 6 months. I guess either the pressure is getting to him or he truly doesn't know what he's doing. I enjoyed your so called empathy on the subject.
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