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SN Greg Wright
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People that have never been to sea are incapable of understanding the dynamics of it all. That's why I don't pay a lot of attention to internet 'experts' who spout to anyone that'll listen that THEY know JUST what happened.
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SCPO Timothy Ellis
SCPO Timothy Ellis
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Well said, sailor.
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true true
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LTJG Richard Bruce
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CG cutters spend their time either running away from ships or chasing after them. This cat and mouse game develops better ship handling skills than the deck officers on capital Navy ships. I have sailed through many fishing fleets and busy shipping channels and canals. Was on watch in CIC transiting the English Channel at night. Too many contacts to plot.

Always thought Navy needed more training in independent steaming and close quarters maneuvering. Nature of their mission tends to keep them away from other ships and in task units. SWO should be required to spend time on a medium or high endurance cutter for at least one patrol.
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LT Brad McInnis
LT Brad McInnis
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SCPO (Join to see) - Yep, they try to cram so much into so little time. The SWO community (my opinion) likes that they are "jacks of all trades" and it hurts in the long run. We don't knwo what went on with Fitz, but there were certainly some missed things due to experience. I'll say this again, we need to have LDO type bridge watch standers who are outside the normal pipeline. Happens in most other Navy's I worked with...
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SCPO Combat Systems Electronics Leading Petty Officer
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LT Brad McInnis - I've always thought there should be 3 communities within the SWO community: Bridge, Combat Sys/WEPs, Engineering.
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LT Brad McInnis
LT Brad McInnis
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SCPO (Join to see) - Yep, but the SWO community likes to do things the hard way... Don't get me wrong, I have worked with awesome ship drivers, but they were fewer and farther between. This could be because I was biased, I hated bridge watches.
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LTJG Richard Bruce
LTJG Richard Bruce
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Ring knocker Ensigns may be perceived as naïve, but by the time I put on my butter bars, I stood many bridge watches on a sailing ship, a 82ft patrol boat, 327ft cutter, and a 378ft cutter, plus day trips on numerous utility boats. Quickly became OOD on a 378ft cutter. Stood double 4-8's for months. CG patrols are usually independent steaming with frequent port calls. Ship has twin controllable pitch props and 360deg electric bow prop with bridge wing controls, never used a tug to enter/leaving port. High risk of trouble prevents most Navy ship from making port calls in unsecure locations. Politics also prevent Navy ships that may carry nukes from entering certain foreign ports.

A few CG officers transfer to Navy ships to earn a SWO pin. Don't understand why the Navy doesn't see the value of learning a different way to run a bridge watch.
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