Posted on Jun 9, 2017
The Army Graduates Its First Female Infantry Soldiers In More Than 200 Years | American Military...
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It's good news that the standard wasn't lowered. I still wonder how many long term physical ailments it may cause to the females later in life just based on how beat up male infantryman have been over the years.
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PV2 Chris Grice
15% is huge yes and if they are making it to front line infantry units then it is a huge milestone do I agree with it no but times change and so must I but if women are holding their own great but here is my concern 11 series mos is getting harder to fill because young people want to get into the more high tech fields I see a major imbalance taking place here.
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SFC (Retired) Efrain Hernandez
How about if its a transgender soldier male to female they should e good to go!
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LTC John Mohor
Now that one at present day is still a slippery slope. A person making changes like that ... I read one of the regulation guidelines partially and afterward I still couldn't figure how a commander is supposed to administer a urinalysis nor when the PT Test standards transition from one category male to female or female to male standards.
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PFC (Join to see)
Sir I can tell you cause I seen it happen, the standards were significantly lowered.
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Kudos to those who made it through. The Marines spent about 2 years sending Female Marine Volunteers through SOI (School of Infantry) and recently started sending graduates to Infantry units in the FMF. As the Marines conducted the training the failure rate dropped from 90% to about 60% among female attendees, which I think was not due to any relaxation of the standards but because the females who attended the course were more thoroughly screened and prepared.
This article didn't go into detail about the selection process or attrition rate, which I would be interested in.
This article didn't go into detail about the selection process or attrition rate, which I would be interested in.
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SPC Erich Guenther
SSG Robert Webster - Maybe the Army units I served in but the highest I had to lift was M113 or I think I lifted them to Jeep trailer level once. Never had trucks distribute Ammo to my position always dispatched a track or jeep to central ammo distribution point.........then it came back with the ammo.
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SSG Robert Webster
SPC Erich Guenther - Really? You mean to tell me that as a TOW crew member that you were never on ammo detail? Never on Range detail? That is difficult to believe.
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PFC (Join to see)
That would be responsible because especially for US Army Light Infantry were they operate by marching into combat and light infantry is never light you ruck with over 100 lbs worth of equipment and supplies and any female candidate going for light infantry should be prepared to meet all standards expected of their male counter parts because those are skills that make that force an elite unit and those standards cannot be lowered for the sake of politics.
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SFC (Retired) Efrain Hernandez
As my PLDC instructor said (yes PLDC many moon ago now known as WLC) "IF YOU LEARN ANYTHING OUT OF THIS COURSE IS TO LEARN T RESPECT THE INFANTRY"
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So I take it from your profile your someone about to enlist in the MOS? It is an achievement to graduate Infantry OSUT because the transition alone from civilian to Soldier is pretty tough but also tougher if your not in shape when you arrive there. Something to keep in mind though. While at Infantry OSUT your under heavy protective supervision, so training accidents are not as frequent. Still you might see one or two hauled away in the meat wagon at OSUT. The training standards in OSUT are lower than you have in an Active Duty Infantry unit. So while you MIGHT graduate marksman from OSUT you better be near expert on your rifle shortly after you get to your unit. And while you MIGHT graduate OSUT just barely being able to do 42 pushups, you better be able to do 60 or more shortly after you arrive at your unit. Bottom line is that OSUT is an introduction to the MOS it is not nor was it ever intended to be the final baseline standard for the MOS. You will see that set a lot higher if your final destination is Active Duty Infantry. As for National Guard Infantry, they do not have it much easier but they give allowances in the NG that your not doing it 24 by 7. So in that respect NG Infantry is a little easier. However, among the two worst FTX's where I started to get hypo thermia hard to tell which one I shivered more in 17 degree weather at Fort Campbell with the 101st and no winter gear OR minus 10 weather at Fort McCoy Wisconsin, where I could not fold my tent as it was a sheet of ice from the humidity in my breath condensing and freezing on the inside. Good Luck to you and worry more about how your going to do then the Females. Keep a sharp eye out after graduation because remember nobody typically watches the idiots in your regular unit until someone gets seriously injured or killed. That someone could be you if your not carefully checking and double checking and keeping an eye out all the time. Yes......it's still that way.
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SSG Robert Webster
Jayden Manning - If you have or had to have a bunch of medical BS (as you put it) taken care of prior to your entry in the service, then I would highly recommend that you select a career path other than Infantry.
Give you a prime example - You were an outstanding football player in HS and/or college, but you had a knee injury, DO NOT JOIN the Infantry. If you do, you are setting yourself up for disappointment, further injury and eventually failure. It will catch up with you, if you are not EXTREMELY careful.
Give you a prime example - You were an outstanding football player in HS and/or college, but you had a knee injury, DO NOT JOIN the Infantry. If you do, you are setting yourself up for disappointment, further injury and eventually failure. It will catch up with you, if you are not EXTREMELY careful.
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SPC Erich Guenther
Jayden Manning - Agree with the SSG above. If your Medical Condition is anything that will limit you with running, using your legs or breathing. This is the wrong MOS and they will discover the issue in OSUT more than likely and force you to reclass into a more limited set of MOS' then you can choose from now. Did you know even getting frostbite is a DQ from enlistment again in the Infantry? Because getting frostbite once increases your chances dramatically of getting it again but more severe next time.
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Jayden Manning
Thanks just ADHD and f.a.s the one is not even in the army medical roster to dysquallfy a person so even the highest ranking recuter in the office I went to was scratching his head he just had to see me in person the whole situation is bizzar ADHD only thing great with the is I am a good worker under pressure and stress as shown in my college career going to make my self look like an ass but I would start an essay the night before it was due and a little bit that morning then hand it in and get a b or a c lol
Bleave it or not I have not gotten frost bite I've had a few injuryes being a dude one was from shit you not football just got a bad bruse to the pattela but still did gym and played the rest of the game to one thing for sure I am not a quitter one was from skateboarding and I broke 2 fingers one being my middle I think that the nurse who was examinting me gave me a ugly look come to think of it but looking at it now I might be good thanks for getting me to think I don't preplan much cuz there is to much room for hell to break lose from my civilian life why I never called back the college for early commissioning I can't pitcure having to plan out something any strategic planning to win a battle because my success in civilian life other than my business have been achived by my flexible planning
Bleave it or not I have not gotten frost bite I've had a few injuryes being a dude one was from shit you not football just got a bad bruse to the pattela but still did gym and played the rest of the game to one thing for sure I am not a quitter one was from skateboarding and I broke 2 fingers one being my middle I think that the nurse who was examinting me gave me a ugly look come to think of it but looking at it now I might be good thanks for getting me to think I don't preplan much cuz there is to much room for hell to break lose from my civilian life why I never called back the college for early commissioning I can't pitcure having to plan out something any strategic planning to win a battle because my success in civilian life other than my business have been achived by my flexible planning
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SPC Erich Guenther
Jayden Manning - Those do not sound like huge issues. I think ADHD is only disqualifying if you require medication to counter it and I have no clue on f.a.s. Also, saw your post on shooting. Don't worry about that the M16 and it's variants are designed to be one of the easiest and most accurate rifles to aim and shoot in the world. Most soldiers have issues with breath control over aim as well as jerking their trigger finger instead of a slow squeeze. Just breath normally when you aim and if your breathing hard hold back some of that to steady your aim......but don't hold your breath..........it's a skill you will pick up.
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