If Trumpcare Ends Up Happening, Up to 7 Million Veterans Could See Their Health Care Ruined

LT Brad McInnis - https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/1628/text

The point is that as the bill stands, it has those negative effects. I don't see that as right or left wing anything.
Forget the labels and just look at the facts. Everyone attacks the messenger nowadays.

First of all, let's not forget how the Democrats neglected both the actively serving and seperated/retired Veterans in the original ACA. This was signed about two months AFTER Obama signed ACA.

"Amends the Internal Revenue Code to include children of Vietnam War and certain Korean War veterans receiving care and services through the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) for spina bifida-related medical conditions and children of women Vietnam veterans born with certain birth defects as meeting the definition of minimum essential coverage under requirements of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA)."

https://www.congress.gov/bill/111th-congress/house-bill/5014

So spare me the false malice and evil GOP rhetoric...

Next let's point this out:
"One of those early changes in March stripped out language specifically stating that veterans who were eligible for VA medical services but not enrolled in them would be eligible for health care tax credits. Republicans have called the language superfluous, saying that existing Internal Revenue Service rules have already established that.

“No matter what verbiage you hear, nothing in this bill changes how veterans are treated under the law,” said Rep. Phil Roe, R-Tenn. “Nothing. The criticisms are flat-out wrong. I'm a veteran, a doctor, and chairman of the Veteran’s Affairs Committee. It ain't going to happen.”"

http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/lawmakers-spar-health-care-replacement-veterans

Once the final bill is passed and sent to the government, do you all really think the GOP would purposefully keep such an oversight (provided it's true)? I think that's politically motivated wishful thinking...

Since when do the Republicans care about healthcare in general? They had 8 years to come up with a plan and are now coming up with one that we hope will replace Obamacare. The Democrats are no better, stripping every penny they can from the military. How many elected officials have served in the military? On both sides of the house and senate? I can't believe that you guys even bother taking sides. Bashing each other and thinking that either side really and truly care about veterans. Democrats would love to see the military the size of a militia and the Republicans only care about us when it comes to protecting their wealth ,but how many of them would pick up arms when the call comes? College educated and honored veterans alike cannot continue to bash each other simply because of party affiliation. The military taught us better. One team, one fight.

1stSgt Nelson Kerr - So was this out of "malice" on the Democrat's part? After all it had to be added to the existing law AFTER ACA was signed.

"Amends the Internal Revenue Code to include children of Vietnam War and certain Korean War veterans receiving care and services through the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) for spina bifida-related medical conditions and children of women Vietnam veterans born with certain birth defects as meeting the definition of minimum essential coverage under requirements of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA)."

https://www.congress.gov/bill/111th-congress/house-bill/5014

Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin - The left part out then fixed it , that is different than intentionally adding harmful rules, the first shows sloppiness the second shows intent

There was no evidence of intention of malice and I could use your exact same logic which Col Joseph Lenertz commented on to say the Democrats meant to leave the Military out in an effort to either move them to Obamacare (and increase their medical expenses) or simply because they hate the military. They were asked and they stated the following; "language superfluous, saying that existing Internal Revenue Service rules have already established that." Should this be in error, do you actually believe they will leave it that way? I would imagine you'll say yes because you're all about avoiding rational discourse as the Col stated.

My Masters Thesis was on the ACA and its effects on the one of the nations most poorest areas, the Rio Grande Valley. I can say i've read most of the ACA over a month and outlined then, its many faults. I haven't read this version, mostly because I dont have to and know its not in its final form. I have no doubt it too will have major flaws.

I enjoy debating based on facts, but relying on the interpretation of a progressive comedian for a well known biased social media site is crazy. The only revelation coming out of these post as that people are bias to their political ideology and that many of their points are based on talking points from bias entities and not personal research.

SPC Nathan Freeman - The new tax plan has not even got out of committee or even started hearings, so how do you know what it contains. It would take a time machine to know that at this point. You might want to give that to the Republican leadership siunce they do not know how the new tax plan will look like yet ans since it effect revenue, 51 votes will not get it through.

The point is most veterans do not get Tricare, and even fewer get Tricare for life, that make little difference since the article involved is not about Tricare but about taxes. Spence was throwing out strawmen an lying his ass off usual.

1stSgt Nelson Kerr - It doesn't change tax law. It simply states that if you already have access to a government provided health program (e.g. the VA) then you don't get subsidies for Obamacare plans. I know you're normally better than this, but you don't seem to want to read beyond the headline here.

How is it false news when House Veterans Affairs Committee member Rep. Mark Takano and vet support group VoteVets slammed the bill due to its effect on veterans? Where's your proof that its fake news? Put up or shut up

So why is this article out saying what will happen? Again. Fake news. None of the bills are adequate as they stand. I'm ok with that as long as they keep hashing it out and do it right unlike Obamacare where you had to vote on it before you could read it and they lied about everything just to get it past the CBO.