Posted on Feb 3, 2017
Michio Kaku: US has the worst educational system known to science
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With all due respect liberals has caused this, started a very long time... imho
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Dr. Kaku is full of BS. Especially when he talks about the H1B and what it is. It has nothing to do with Ph.D candidates.
The H1B does take jobs from US Citizens.
Straight from the USCIS webpage:
You may be eligible for an H-1B visa if you are planning to work for the business you start in the United States in an occupation that normally requires a bachelor’s degree or higher in a related field of study (e.g., engineers, scientists or mathematicians), and you have at least a bachelor’s degree or equivalent in a field related to the position.
Initial period of stay in the United States: Up to 3 years. Extensions possible in up to 3 year increments. Maximum period of stay generally 6 years (extensions beyond 6 years may be possible).
Another item that is not even discussed (or lightly touched upon) is that when those individuals go back to their country of origin, they take the job with them and the remuneration from the US side to purchase those services, etc., goes down i.e. what it cost in the US ($$) compared to the cost from outside the US ($). It is all about the MONEY.
The lack of US citizen Ph.D. candidates compared to the greater share of non-US candidates, is who pays for the cost of the education at the collegiate/university level. Not only that, if the US education system is so bad, why don't those Ph.D candidates go to school in their home country or another country?
All you have to do is ask any US citizen with a STEM degree, that had a job who trained their replacement and then that replacement took the job back to their country of origin.
The H1B does take jobs from US Citizens.
Straight from the USCIS webpage:
You may be eligible for an H-1B visa if you are planning to work for the business you start in the United States in an occupation that normally requires a bachelor’s degree or higher in a related field of study (e.g., engineers, scientists or mathematicians), and you have at least a bachelor’s degree or equivalent in a field related to the position.
Initial period of stay in the United States: Up to 3 years. Extensions possible in up to 3 year increments. Maximum period of stay generally 6 years (extensions beyond 6 years may be possible).
Another item that is not even discussed (or lightly touched upon) is that when those individuals go back to their country of origin, they take the job with them and the remuneration from the US side to purchase those services, etc., goes down i.e. what it cost in the US ($$) compared to the cost from outside the US ($). It is all about the MONEY.
The lack of US citizen Ph.D. candidates compared to the greater share of non-US candidates, is who pays for the cost of the education at the collegiate/university level. Not only that, if the US education system is so bad, why don't those Ph.D candidates go to school in their home country or another country?
All you have to do is ask any US citizen with a STEM degree, that had a job who trained their replacement and then that replacement took the job back to their country of origin.
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I'm all for bringing all the smart people into America we can. Also, when Michio Kako states that 50 percent of all PhD candidates in America are people on H1B visas' he was completely correct. However, the assumption that it is the result of not enough qualified American candidates is false. You should note that he only implies it, but does not say it. The reason Universities currently have large numbers of foreign born Masters and PhD candidates is because the Federal Government pays the schools more for having them. Take away the Federal funding of foreign students and their numbers would drop immediately.
I have two additional points. One the US primary school system has been redesigned into two two tracks. The first is called the International Baccalaureate (IB) Program, which actually prepares children for college and to eventually take senior level positions and the second is a general education track, which prepares children to listen to authority and perform work as instructed. The second point is that the US University System is still the best in the World and that is why so many foreigners want come to America, go to College, then return home.
I have two additional points. One the US primary school system has been redesigned into two two tracks. The first is called the International Baccalaureate (IB) Program, which actually prepares children for college and to eventually take senior level positions and the second is a general education track, which prepares children to listen to authority and perform work as instructed. The second point is that the US University System is still the best in the World and that is why so many foreigners want come to America, go to College, then return home.
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SSG Robert Webster
Don't fully agree with you first statement except that those individuals that you are referring to are actually employed by the University System, which would be a correct statement, but then you also get to the part about WHO is paying for it. When you pay for it out of your own pocket compared to someone else paying for it, well you get the picture.
Also, the reverse discrimination shown by the student diversity quota system also leads to these issues. Which also devolves into whom is paying for it.
Also, the reverse discrimination shown by the student diversity quota system also leads to these issues. Which also devolves into whom is paying for it.
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