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SGM Billy Herrington
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That's just to be eligible to attend training. When they enter training they must pass the high physical demands testing. For 11B it is: hand grenade throw 35m, 100m 3-5 SEC rush, 268lb dummy drag, pick up, carry and load a TOW missle, while seated, pick up a 25mm feeder and move it across the body and set it down, simulate extracting a casualty prorated to 76lbs, scale a 2m wall, move 16 sandbags 5m (not sure about the number or weight off hand) and do a 12 mile ruck march in 5 hrs or less. All tasks are done while wearing Kevlar, IOTV with front, back and side plates, and FLC. Ruck weight is 43ish pounds.

I've had the most retesting on the hand grenade throw. You won't believe the number of. On throwers we have out there.

11C is similar and adds mortar specific tasks such as hold a 120mm dummy round for 15 sec I think. Move the 120mm baseplate.
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1SG(P) First Sergeant
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Thanks for the heads up.
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SGM Billy Herrington
SGM Billy Herrington
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No problem. I might have forgotten one or two or messed up some time but the Soldiers are briefed on it when they inprocess.
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PFC Jim Wheeler
PFC Jim Wheeler
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When did they add this in MSG? Also, is it a single obstacle course type test and if so, when do they attempt it?
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SGM Billy Herrington
SGM Billy Herrington
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1 April 2016. It's done at OSUT and during the MOSQ courses put on by the Guard. There's not any set time during the course to take the test. There also isn't an "obstacle course" in the traditional sense.

We take them out for a practice run to demonstrate the events the day before. Then the next day we start with the 12 miler and end at the motor pool where our walls and other equipment is. We have a bit of freedom as to when we do it and what order etc.

The funny thing is all MOS's will have to do some form of HPDT when reclassing. I'm not sure what the others will do, but it's funny watching the tankers do a 12 mile road March.
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PFC Jim Wheeler
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I saw something about this earlier in the year, and I really like where they're going with that.


It's just too bad that the standards they set could be met by a physically average 12 year old boy.
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1SG Vet Technician
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I remember hearing once a couple years ago that our general poor fitness level as a nation was reaching a point where it had become critical for the national defense mission. I wonder if this change will start to cause shortages in the MOS.

As much as I agree with the concept...being unable to perform the job only hurts a unit as a whole (weakest link and all that)...I wonder if we will eventually find these standards relaxed. The military has been known to relax some standards when the need for soldiers increases..such as was the case during the "surge" of 2007-8.
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