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PO1 Edward Spencer
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The group went to court because they'd previously been banned from campus for being harrassing and threatening and preventing other groups, INCLUDING THE STUDENT VETERANS ASSOCIATION, from being able to set up in areas we were previously scheduled to be in. Talley isn't particularly large, so the permits are required for coordination purposes, that's all. This has nothing to do with free speech and has everything to do with bullying and strong-arming others to force their message down the throats of students and attempting to shut down those who disagree with them.

- an NC State Alumni who had to deal with those a**holes.
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MSgt Danny Hope
MSgt Danny Hope
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Thanks for clarifying the issue
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PO1 Edward Spencer
PO1 Edward Spencer
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The "church" (and I use the term loosely) has a reputation in Raleigh. And I think it's especially telling that they had a press conference to announce they were suing the school BEFORE they filed any complaints on campus.
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MSgt Danny Hope
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liberals are always disconnected from the constitution
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CW5 Andrew J. Foreman
CW5 Andrew J. Foreman
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My dad is a Democrat and explained it thus way, "government must intervene because most people don't know what is best for them". I about fell out of my chair. In other words let mommy/daddy government take care of you cause your to stupid to know what is best for you or your family.
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MSgt Danny Hope
MSgt Danny Hope
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CW5 Andrew J. Foreman - Wow, but that sounds par for the course
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PO2 Robert Cuminale
PO2 Robert Cuminale
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You've heard what Shumer said recently?
He hopes Democrats retake the Senate so they can appoint judges which will NOT agree with the constitution. Last year he tried to push a bill allowing the Congress to redefine speech that is constitutionally protected.
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SSgt Christopher Brose
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CW5 Andrew J. Foreman In North Carolina, You DO have to get a permit for "...2nd" In order to buy a handgun, you first have to go to the sheriff's office and get a purchase permit.

If you're looking for a disconnect between how they treat the 1st Amendment and the 2nd Amendment, you're not going to find it with permits.
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PO1 Edward Spencer
PO1 Edward Spencer
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Thank you for pointing that out.
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PO2 Robert Cuminale
PO2 Robert Cuminale
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May I flesh that out some?
To get a purchase permit you have to undergo a background check. If you pass you may purchase up to 3 permits.
If you want to concealed carry you must undergo another background check that is much deeper. None of this is free. All permits are good for five years. You will have to repeat the background check for a carry permit.
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SSgt Christopher Brose
SSgt Christopher Brose
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When I was stationed in Camp Lejeune from '98 to '01, it varied from county to county, depending on how the Sheriff wanted to administer it. The Sheriff of Onslow County was a dick to enlisted gun purchasers. The laws at the time allowed the Sheriff to grant 5 handgun purchase permits per background check, but because I was enlisted, he would only grant me one. That meant I had to pay for a background check and permit every time I wanted one. (And since I was single and guns were my main hobby, I wanted quite a few of them during my time there.) And I had to go to the Sheriff's office to pick the damned things up during regular office hours, which meant scrambling during lunch or scrambling after work to make it there, often not in time.

I thought it was a North Carolina thing until I found out from some guys at Cherry Point that the Sheriff of Craven County was very conciliatory with enlisted gun buyers.

It always pissed me off that any ordinary person could get five purchase permits in one motion, even if that person flipped burgers or emptied trash (nothing against people who do that), but that I could only get one even though I had a security clearance.

Actually, it always pissed me off that I needed any kind of permit at all. Even California wasn't that jacked up. I bought my first handgun in California in '98, and the only stupid thing there was the two-week waiting period.
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