Posted on Feb 22, 2016
Iranian, Iraqi media blow whistle on U.S. Delta Force clandestine operation
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The idea that the Shia dominated government in Baghdad in Iraq was ever our long term friend or ally was always a fiction. We should have stayed in Iraq for an indefinite time period, and enforced a tripartite division on the country, with semi-autonomous states Sunni, Shia and Kurd, acted as a traffic cop, and imposed severe consequences on the Iranians for their continued meddling in Iraq, and their killing of US troops by their proxy Shia Militias, mostly with EFPs (explosively formed perpetrators), including limited but punishing military actions on the Iranians to demonstrate our resolve (and to ratchet up the pain and the real costs on the Iranians for their interference in Iraq and their support of terrorism in the ME).
We also should have made it clear we were not going to be leaving anytime in the near future. Obama owns a significant share of the responsibility for where Iraq is at this time, because of his insistence on keeping a Campaign promise over the wisdom and the advice of many advisers who told him that Iraq would go to hell if we pulled out. And destabilize the whole region. Plus he never saw the former PM of Iraq Nouri Al-Maliki for what he was . . . a partisan Shia who was in the pocket of his Iranian handlers, until it was too late. Nouri Al-Maliki was among the worst choices that the Iraqis could have made to re-unite the country and be a fair and impartial Iraqi Nationalist as the PM. He was always a Shia First, Iraqi second, just read his personal life story here
http://www.worldpolicy.org/journal/spring2013/maliki
There was plenty of background intelligence of just who and where Nouri Al-Maliki came from and what his true motivations and loyalties were. He was never interested in a power sharing government with the Iraqi Sunnis, and he was very motivated to punish and limit the Sunni population's power and influence in the Army and the government for their oppression and murder of his family and the the Shia Majority under Sadam Hussein and the Bathists.
The Iraqis needed something along the lines of a truth and reconciliation commission like what was set up in Rwanda and South Africa. That never happened nor was that imposed on the Iraqis by the Occupying Power that was the US. We should have governed Iraq along the lines that we governed Berlin and West Germany and Japan after WWII, with a US military governor that ensured that basic services would get restored, with a functional and largely corruption free parallel government heade by US Hand picked Leaders, as we built up three separate independent semi-autonomous states each with their own basically equal in force security forces. We really were not interested or not willing to micromanage the Iraqis until we could be sure that there was a survivable three autonomous and interdependent governments in place and a solid power sharing agreement in place.
Plus without limiting the external Iranian meddling in Iraq (and to a lesser degree the Sunni Gulf States, like Saudi Arabia) it is not at all certain that anything but our continued strong presence would have kept the "country" from going to hell the moment we pulled out. My humble thoughts.
http://www.worldpolicy.org/journal/spring2013/maliki
http://www.juancole.com/2014/08/mistakes-maliki-country.html
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/15/nouri-al-maliki-undermines-us-interests-in-iraq-pl/?page=all
We also should have made it clear we were not going to be leaving anytime in the near future. Obama owns a significant share of the responsibility for where Iraq is at this time, because of his insistence on keeping a Campaign promise over the wisdom and the advice of many advisers who told him that Iraq would go to hell if we pulled out. And destabilize the whole region. Plus he never saw the former PM of Iraq Nouri Al-Maliki for what he was . . . a partisan Shia who was in the pocket of his Iranian handlers, until it was too late. Nouri Al-Maliki was among the worst choices that the Iraqis could have made to re-unite the country and be a fair and impartial Iraqi Nationalist as the PM. He was always a Shia First, Iraqi second, just read his personal life story here
http://www.worldpolicy.org/journal/spring2013/maliki
There was plenty of background intelligence of just who and where Nouri Al-Maliki came from and what his true motivations and loyalties were. He was never interested in a power sharing government with the Iraqi Sunnis, and he was very motivated to punish and limit the Sunni population's power and influence in the Army and the government for their oppression and murder of his family and the the Shia Majority under Sadam Hussein and the Bathists.
The Iraqis needed something along the lines of a truth and reconciliation commission like what was set up in Rwanda and South Africa. That never happened nor was that imposed on the Iraqis by the Occupying Power that was the US. We should have governed Iraq along the lines that we governed Berlin and West Germany and Japan after WWII, with a US military governor that ensured that basic services would get restored, with a functional and largely corruption free parallel government heade by US Hand picked Leaders, as we built up three separate independent semi-autonomous states each with their own basically equal in force security forces. We really were not interested or not willing to micromanage the Iraqis until we could be sure that there was a survivable three autonomous and interdependent governments in place and a solid power sharing agreement in place.
Plus without limiting the external Iranian meddling in Iraq (and to a lesser degree the Sunni Gulf States, like Saudi Arabia) it is not at all certain that anything but our continued strong presence would have kept the "country" from going to hell the moment we pulled out. My humble thoughts.
http://www.worldpolicy.org/journal/spring2013/maliki
http://www.juancole.com/2014/08/mistakes-maliki-country.html
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/15/nouri-al-maliki-undermines-us-interests-in-iraq-pl/?page=all
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Considering when MSG Josh Wheeler was killed late last year in Iraq - the media/government made it no secret as to what unit he was a part of. Then there's the video of the joint op between CAG and Kurdish forces raiding a suspected ISIS compound. So in regards to the report of whistle blowing on clandestine operations by Iraqi politicians - it wouldn't surprise me if they knew about such operations. As for the Iraqi forces killing US troops - as a whole, I find that to be preposterous. I have no doubt they'll be the random green on blue/insider attacks - just as in Afghanistan...but as an US troop, you should always be on alert. What's that saying...complacency kills?
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Sure Delta's are in the Middle East - our own news sources have reported on some of their activities.
If anything these guys are hunting ISIS leaders, kidnappers, and collecting intelligence. Not sure what a unit on the ground is going to do in disrupting the Russian, Syrian, Iraqi and Iranian coalition.
What's interesting is how their presence is being viewed as hostile while Iran has sent and more than likely still sending troops (advisers) to fight ISIS into Iraq - not sure what to make of this. Maybe the Delta teams are disrupting some sort of criminal enterprise and those in Iraq are trying to create some hostility and pressure the locals to act on it against American assets.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-uncovered/behind-delta-force-covert-unit-saved-isis-captives-iraq-n450126
If anything these guys are hunting ISIS leaders, kidnappers, and collecting intelligence. Not sure what a unit on the ground is going to do in disrupting the Russian, Syrian, Iraqi and Iranian coalition.
What's interesting is how their presence is being viewed as hostile while Iran has sent and more than likely still sending troops (advisers) to fight ISIS into Iraq - not sure what to make of this. Maybe the Delta teams are disrupting some sort of criminal enterprise and those in Iraq are trying to create some hostility and pressure the locals to act on it against American assets.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-uncovered/behind-delta-force-covert-unit-saved-isis-captives-iraq-n450126
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