Former spy seeks to show UK knew of Guantanamo torture: Sunday Times - One America News Network

MAJ Bryan Zeski - I understand that and even agree with you on the principle of law. However there also international laws, which are not being applied to these individuals. It seems that the United Nations is more worried about "cultural assimilation's". Rather then applying these laws to these individuals, for crimes against humanity. The point I am making in all this, is not really about vengeance. Yes Anger, vengeance no. I am just tired of seeing the dead. If it means one of them are forced; to give us information and its proves to be reliable. One less dead soldier, one less dead mom, or dad, brother or sister. I admit I am angry, angry at what ISIS is doing to children, women and minorities. Life is to short, yet we all were born to be alive, yet forget to live; if that makes any sense. I think in the end I would procure life by all means necessary. For in the end, you cannot have happiness or liberty. If we excuse the rule of law, for the benefit of the few instead of the many. Then we are already like them, just we do not admit it.

P.S. I too enjoy civil and straight up arguments that are reasonable as well. I am just passionate about our military. I just want the best for them and our Nation. :)

The thing for me is that we cannot sacrifice our honor and integrity for the purposes of anger or war. It's been shown time and again that torture doesn't get the answers we want or need - and none of the torture we've done so far has resulted in any actionable intelligence. Once we understand that, then torture is just about hurting people for the sake of hurting them - which isn't justice - it is only vengeance.

I, too, hate what ISIS and other groups are doing. There are more effective ways to deal with ISIS than through torture and sacrificing our values to do it.

Craig Hatch - You meant Brass Balls?

The trade of 5 Taliban commanders for a Coward qualifies as not torturing and makes it all right and rosy, doesn't it?

MCPO Roger Collins - So, the UN has nothing to lose and wants to cast us in a bad light?

"Under the United Nations Torture Convention of 1984, torture involves intentional infliction of pain, by a public official, to obtain information.

The full definition of torture in the convention is: "Any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity."

The United States signed the agreement. We should either rescind that signature, withdraw from the UN, or stop torturing people. Otherwise we are a blatantly hypocritical nation.

MAJ Bryan Zeski - Short answer, YES, definitely. So, cutting their toenails really is torture if is caused mental anguish?

MCPO Roger Collins - If the intention is to use toenail cutting to get information or a confession then, yes, it would be. Seems like torture hinges somewhat on punishment or coercion of information through some kind of pain. So, it you're cutting nails for hygiene purposes, have it at - but don't try and use it as a tool to get information.

Do you think the United States should rescind it's signature on the torture agreement? Or withdraw from the United Nations? Or continue to say one thing and do something else?

MAJ Bryan Zeski - And you find that acceptable that that statement is true and it could be the only way to prevent another 9/11? Col. West you are not. As to your repeated question, if it were up to me, the UN would not drive our policy on our National Security, that is the responsibility of the C-in-C alone. You ask my opinion and that is it.