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Despite reports, unemployment is still a major issue for veterans.
I knew unemployment was low among veterans was BS. It just makes sense when you look at the statistics. See current stats: http://www.bls.gov/news.release/vet.nr0.htm
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Though government reports claim rates of low unemployment, these numbers are skewed by flawed survey methodology. Recently, The Los Angeles Times published an article by Alan Zarembo that stated high veteran unemployment appears to be a thing of the past. This is patently untrue both nationally and in the Los Angeles area. As the executive director of the Call of Duty Endowment, a nonprofit that has funded the placement of over 17,400 veterans into high-quality jobs, I work daily with organizations in the veteran employment space. We don’t see their unemployment waning.
The link: http://taskandpurpose.com/despite-reports-unemployment-is-still-a-major-issue-for-veterans/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=tp-today
I knew unemployment was low among veterans was BS. It just makes sense when you look at the statistics. See current stats: http://www.bls.gov/news.release/vet.nr0.htm
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Though government reports claim rates of low unemployment, these numbers are skewed by flawed survey methodology. Recently, The Los Angeles Times published an article by Alan Zarembo that stated high veteran unemployment appears to be a thing of the past. This is patently untrue both nationally and in the Los Angeles area. As the executive director of the Call of Duty Endowment, a nonprofit that has funded the placement of over 17,400 veterans into high-quality jobs, I work daily with organizations in the veteran employment space. We don’t see their unemployment waning.
The link: http://taskandpurpose.com/despite-reports-unemployment-is-still-a-major-issue-for-veterans/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=tp-today
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SrA David Steyer
SGT (Join to see) - Masters in education? Could they not get a job as a teacher? Teaching not pay well? Nationwide it depends on the district because some require a masters to get hired or you have to get it after so many years otherwise you are fired. Also factor in what the teacher wants to do with their career. Every so often my wife, who is a teacher thinks about it and we talk about it together and we always come to the conclusion it would be a horrible investment. Why? The district couldn't care any less if she had one, it wouldn't factor into any promotions, the extra pay that a teacher with a masters get is going away and it was only an extra dollar an hour, and the financial aid the district provided has gone away. So unless we want to go in debt, then sure she will get it.
Plus with what she wants to do with her career and remain in the district, again it would just be a debt as she doesn't even want to be a principal or in a similar leadership role. If she changes her mind, then maybe but that is extremely doubtful.
Do I wish companies would do more? I really don't know and we know they can't just create jobs out of thin air. Every military job fair or site intended to help veterans find jobs is a joke as every job advertised at these events or posted online appears to be for people who never served. Or if they did serve, they got out years ago and established themselves in something and the fact that they served isn't as important as them being established in some background. Not to say it isn't valued but the fact they served won't carry the most weight.
Plus with what she wants to do with her career and remain in the district, again it would just be a debt as she doesn't even want to be a principal or in a similar leadership role. If she changes her mind, then maybe but that is extremely doubtful.
Do I wish companies would do more? I really don't know and we know they can't just create jobs out of thin air. Every military job fair or site intended to help veterans find jobs is a joke as every job advertised at these events or posted online appears to be for people who never served. Or if they did serve, they got out years ago and established themselves in something and the fact that they served isn't as important as them being established in some background. Not to say it isn't valued but the fact they served won't carry the most weight.
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SrA David Steyer
PO2 (Join to see) - I only may be double posting because I didn't want my other post to get too long. I did the veteran initiatives hiring with Walmart a few weeks ago. No word yet. It takes 30 days for a part time job and 3 months or more for a full time job. If you read the fine print, they will try and place you in a store in a 50 mile radius. You have no say in what you are doing or what store. I don't have any faith in this program so I am not putting all my eggs in one basket, plus there is a hiring freeze at many Walmart's right now too. I applied for part time jobs years ago before I joined the military, and had interview a week after and started that week or the week after. And this was in an area where the main jobs are part time and underemployment and unemployment is still a huge problem, and no I will never go back or live there now.
So for all I know, with my luck I could get a part time job at a store 45+ miles away and only getting 8 hours a week. All that money would go to gas. There's a Neighborhood Market not even a mile away and a Walmart six miles away. I would work part time there. If they were really serious I would be able to go to a store and get a job that way.
Does it bother me I applied with them? Nope. It is what it is. If I don't get hired with them that's fine. If I do great but I don't plan on staying long term.
So for all I know, with my luck I could get a part time job at a store 45+ miles away and only getting 8 hours a week. All that money would go to gas. There's a Neighborhood Market not even a mile away and a Walmart six miles away. I would work part time there. If they were really serious I would be able to go to a store and get a job that way.
Does it bother me I applied with them? Nope. It is what it is. If I don't get hired with them that's fine. If I do great but I don't plan on staying long term.
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SrA David Steyer, Things were tough in the mid 80's. He enjoyed earning $50,000 to $70,000 as opposed to $24,000 a year.
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I keep telling everyone we can't find decent employees here in North Idaho. If your a veteran looking for work in North Idaho call me [login to see] , ext 234.
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"Unemployment" statistics and the % report is skewed by what we "define" as Unemployed.
Definition: Unemployment is defined most basically as the percentage of the total labor force that is unemployed but actively seeking employment and willing to work.
There's a couple key words & phrases above; Total labor force, Actively seeking employment, & Willing to work.
Now, students don't count (that includes people returning to Post-secondary school) towards the Total Labor Force, which basically removes 0-22 + quite a few using educational benefits. It also removes those using retirement and (total) Social Security benefits.
Actively seeking employment is another big one, because there are those who have been removed from the pool for a variety of reasons.
The final category is willing to work, which is harder to quantify, but think "stay at home parent" or "other" in that vein.
When you MODIFY the way the math is ran, you can manipulate the way the percents work.
Definition: Unemployment is defined most basically as the percentage of the total labor force that is unemployed but actively seeking employment and willing to work.
There's a couple key words & phrases above; Total labor force, Actively seeking employment, & Willing to work.
Now, students don't count (that includes people returning to Post-secondary school) towards the Total Labor Force, which basically removes 0-22 + quite a few using educational benefits. It also removes those using retirement and (total) Social Security benefits.
Actively seeking employment is another big one, because there are those who have been removed from the pool for a variety of reasons.
The final category is willing to work, which is harder to quantify, but think "stay at home parent" or "other" in that vein.
When you MODIFY the way the math is ran, you can manipulate the way the percents work.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
SGT (Join to see) - Sorry.. overly verbose answer above (and below).
320M people in the US. But that's not the total Labor Force. You don't count students/children, retired, or people not looking for work. Drops that number dramatically.
The people who would normally be classified as "unemployed" (like students, retired, and not CURRENTLY looking for work) are subtracted off the other number, giving you a smaller number as well. It changes your %.
So.. quick math. Using "dirty" numbers. Let's say the labor force is 200M, and the standard unemployment is 5%. That means we have 10M unemployed at any given time. (10M/200M = 5%). If we change the "Labor Force" to 195M because we take 5M students/etc out of the pool, and do the same thing to the 10M "unemployed" making it 5M, the equation becomes 5M/195M or 2.56%. Pretty dirty trick huh?
What happens if we do it the other way though? Add 5M on both sides (15M/205M = 7.31%). But as PO2 (Join to see) said, "Underemployment" is actually a huge issue. Especially when you look at a First Term vet getting out. An E4 makes "decent" money (right on par with median FAMILY income) when you include benefits, allowances, and tax advantages.
Long story short, the GOVERNMENT DEFINITION of Unemployment (like the VA Definition of Combat Vet) is a bureaucratic yardstick, which isn't "common sense."
320M people in the US. But that's not the total Labor Force. You don't count students/children, retired, or people not looking for work. Drops that number dramatically.
The people who would normally be classified as "unemployed" (like students, retired, and not CURRENTLY looking for work) are subtracted off the other number, giving you a smaller number as well. It changes your %.
So.. quick math. Using "dirty" numbers. Let's say the labor force is 200M, and the standard unemployment is 5%. That means we have 10M unemployed at any given time. (10M/200M = 5%). If we change the "Labor Force" to 195M because we take 5M students/etc out of the pool, and do the same thing to the 10M "unemployed" making it 5M, the equation becomes 5M/195M or 2.56%. Pretty dirty trick huh?
What happens if we do it the other way though? Add 5M on both sides (15M/205M = 7.31%). But as PO2 (Join to see) said, "Underemployment" is actually a huge issue. Especially when you look at a First Term vet getting out. An E4 makes "decent" money (right on par with median FAMILY income) when you include benefits, allowances, and tax advantages.
Long story short, the GOVERNMENT DEFINITION of Unemployment (like the VA Definition of Combat Vet) is a bureaucratic yardstick, which isn't "common sense."
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Oh! Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS, I understand fully now. There is no common sense in government. That's an oxymoron like military intelligence.
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SGT Jose Perdelia-Torres
We are looked at like liabilities. In many cases we have been "in charge", but don't have management certification. We end up at the bottom of the totem pole. People then say, "everybody has to start at the bottom."
I especially like how stores (usually around Memorial Day or Veteran's Day) display commercials or ads stating that they hire Veterans. I've applied to many of the same stores only to be turned away...Macy's for one. How hard is it to sell clothes? but apparently we are no good. Bank of America is another one. I cashed a check that ended up being bad. No chance to pay the money and move on...just terminated in my membership. Yet they love Veterans, right?
I especially like how stores (usually around Memorial Day or Veteran's Day) display commercials or ads stating that they hire Veterans. I've applied to many of the same stores only to be turned away...Macy's for one. How hard is it to sell clothes? but apparently we are no good. Bank of America is another one. I cashed a check that ended up being bad. No chance to pay the money and move on...just terminated in my membership. Yet they love Veterans, right?
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